Best alternate Tablet to an iPad for writing math or physics equations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an alternative tablet to an iPad that is suitable for writing math or physics equations, with a focus on the effectiveness of styluses and touchscreen technologies. Participants explore various devices and technologies, sharing personal experiences and preferences.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire for a tablet that can effectively replace scratch paper for writing equations.
  • One participant mentions the NoteSlate as a potentially exciting option, though its existence is questioned due to lack of production.
  • A participant recalls using a handy but bulky tablet in college, indicating a need for more specific recommendations.
  • There is a discussion about the thickness of styluses, with one participant arguing that it is not the stylus thickness but the touchscreen technology that limits writing accuracy.
  • Participants discuss the differences between capacitive and resistive touchscreens, noting that capacitive screens are less accurate for handwriting.
  • Active digitizer technology is proposed as a solution for natural handwriting, with a participant detailing its advantages and disadvantages, including cost and battery life.
  • One participant shares their experience with a Fujitsu T5010, highlighting its effectiveness for writing and drawing, while noting it may not suit everyone's needs.
  • Another participant agrees on the quality of Fujitsu TabletPCs and discusses the benefits of electronic "ink" for manipulating drawings and handwriting recognition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific tablet recommendation, and multiple competing views regarding stylus effectiveness and touchscreen technology remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of different touchscreen technologies and styluses, indicating that personal preferences and specific use cases may influence their recommendations.

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I'd preferably want something that could replace scratch paper.

The iPad's stylus is far too thick for comfortably writing up math equations.

Thanks!
 
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I second this question. I've been searching for a good writing tablet for ages.
The NoteSlate looked very exciting, but it now appears that the product doesn't actually exist. According to legend, the company intends to begin production if they can find enough seed money, but most consider that to be superstitious nonsense.
 
We used one in our class at college... now if only I could remember what it was called. It was handy, but a little on the bulky side.
 
I've seen a lot of this misconception around the internet. The thickness of the stylus has nothing to do with it. It is a limitation of the touchscreen technology itself. Manufacturers make the styluses thick for two reasons: 1. to avoid damaging the glass, and 2. to avoid lying to you about their effectiveness.

There is even a company that makes styluses with pinpoint accuracy:

http://www.dagi.com.tw/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=p504&Rcg=2

But I have seen a demo of these things, and if you attempt to write at a natural speed, it looks just as horrible as anything else. Stylus makers are making a killing off of people like you who think that if only they get a better stylus, they'll be able to write on their tablet...

Like I said, the real problem is the screen technology. Most tablets out there use capacitive touchscreens, which are good because they have a low profile, low power consumption, can respond to your fingers, and can easily be used for multi-touch. The problem is that capacitive screens are not very accurate (only to within about 5 pixels), so they are not useful for the fine, quick movements used in natural handwriting. There is another kind of screen called resistive, which is not as convenient as capacitive because it requires a sharper object like your fingernail or a piece of plastic (think signature windows at store checkouts, or the old Palm Pilots, etc.), although resistive screens ARE a little more accurate.

What you really want, if you want to write naturally on a tablet, is a screen with an active digitizer. This is the technology Wacom uses for its drawing tablets. It requires a specific pen for input, and will not allow multitouch input at all (unless you get a "hybrid" touchscreen with both capacitive input and an active digitizer pen). It will add more bulk (making your device slightly thicker), and it consumes a lot of power (think 4 hrs battery life instead of 7), but if you want to write and draw, it's the only way to go. It also costs a lot more (think $800 instead of $500).

Active digitizer screen technology has been on tablet PCs and slates for over 10 years (curiously, Apple never bothered to produce a tablet PC with active digitizer, despite being thought of as the go-to computer company for creative works). The forerunners have been Fujitsu and Toshiba; now you will also find machines by HP, Lenovo, Asus, and everyone else.

I use a Fujitsu T5010, which is a convertible laptop/tablet. It will not really suit your needs, because it is a full laptop and will be too heavy to do what you want. But I write and draw on the screen all the time; in fact, I've done all my homework and research on this thing for the last 4 years, practically eliminating wasted paper. My screen literally IS a Wacom tablet (the laptop case sports a Wacom branding sticker next to the usual ones from Windows and Intel).

However, you will find numerous slates (that is, tablet PCs that have no keyboard or optical drive), although they tend to be expensive. Some of the cellphone makers are also catching on to the need for an active digitizer on their 10.1'' tablets, so look around.
 
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I also have a Fujitsu T5010... they make great TabletPCs.

Here's a slate that starts at $800
http://www.shopfujitsu.com/Q550/
(I'm not sure about that Atom processor...
a Core i7 would be nice... but that'll be pricey and more power-hungry,
e.g., http://www.tabletkiosk.com/products/sahara/i500_overview.asp )

Beyond the hardware, there is more to the electronic "ink" than a bunch of pixels.
With a TabletPC it is easy to manipulate what I have already drawn... resize, rescale, recolor, reposition... which is helpful when I lecture with it or do calculations. There's also some handwriting recognition, which is sometimes useful. There have been some attempts to recognize handwriting as LaTeX or MathML... but I don't think that has happened yet.
 
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