Why Does Hydrogen Fluoride (HF) Pose a Danger?

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The discussion revolves around the dangers posed by hydrogen fluoride (HF), focusing on its chemical properties, mechanisms of harm, and historical context in laboratory use. Participants explore its effects on human tissue and materials, as well as safety protocols related to its handling.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that HF is not classified as a strong acid, oxidizer, or reducer, prompting questions about its dangers.
  • One participant mentions that HF can penetrate tissue rapidly, leading to severe burns, and cites a source for this information.
  • Another participant explains that HF reacts with calcium in bones to form insoluble CaF2, raising concerns about its effects on bone health.
  • Questions are raised about the mechanisms by which HF penetrates skin and its ability to etch glass, with one participant attributing the glass etching to the strong Si-F bond formed during the reaction.
  • A participant shares their experience in a lab where HF was traditionally used for etching gallium arsenide, noting a shift towards safer alternatives due to HF's hazardous nature.
  • Discussion includes the high vapor pressure of HF, which poses inhalation risks, and its corrosive properties despite being a weak acid.
  • Calcium gluconate gel is mentioned as a treatment for HF exposure, with a note on its mandatory availability in labs using HF due to past incidents of severe injury.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various concerns about HF's dangers and mechanisms of harm, but there is no consensus on the specifics of its effects or the best practices for handling it. Multiple viewpoints on its properties and risks are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about HF's mechanisms of action and safety protocols depend on specific laboratory practices and may vary by context. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and interpretations regarding HF's hazards.

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It's not a strong acid, it's not an oxidizer, it's not a reducer. What does it do?
 
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I did a bit of research and found info at this site:
http://www.mnpoison.org/index.asp?pageID=151

Apparently, it is very dangerous because of its ability to penetrate tissue (causing severe burns).
 
It also reacts with the calcium in your bones to make CaF2, which is very insoluble in pretty much anything. That's not a good thing. The treatment for exposure is essentially a calcium supplement, I think.
 
Thanks for the info.
How does HF penetrate skin so quickly, and how does HF eat glass?
 
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We do a bunch of GaAs (gallium arsenide) processing in our lab. The etchant for GaAs has traditionally involved HF because that gives you a fast, anisotripc etch with GaAs, which is otherwise very hard to dissolve. Over the last decade or so, people have been switching to slower alternatives, from hearing scary stories about HF disasters. I, for one, was extremely relieved, when we were able to establish our processing procedure such that it entirely eliminated HF (and Br2, which is another common solvent in this field).

I think the reason that HF penetrates so deep is because the fluoride ions are stabilized only by calcium or magnesium ions, found mostly in bone tissue. Soluble salts also are formed with other cations but dissociate rapidly. Consequently, fluoride ions release, and further tissue destruction occurs. Another property that makes HF such a hazard is its high vapor pressure - so inhalation can be very harmful.

What's interesting about HF is that it is extremely corrosive despite being quite a weak acid (it's only about 2% dissociated in aqueous solution). I think the reason for this is that it hydrates much better than the other acids.
 
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It also reacts with the calcium in your bones to make CaF2, which is very insoluble in pretty much anything. That's not a good thing. The treatment for exposure is essentially a calcium supplement, I think.

Yes, typically calcium gluconate gel is used. Any lab that uses HF is required to have CGG easily accessible (I think it has now become mandatory...after someone died from multiple organ failure resulting from dropping a beaker of HF on his lap).
 

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