What are some recommended introductory books on group theory for physicists?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for introductory books on group theory, particularly for physicists. Participants express their preferences and experiences with various texts, considering the relevance of these books to graduate-level physics courses and specific areas of interest such as high energy physics, condensed matter physics, and quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a solid introduction to group theory suitable for graduate-level or senior undergraduate study.
  • Another participant recommends Wu Ki Tung's book, noting its focus on Lie groups relevant to high energy and particle physics.
  • Brian Hall's book on representation theory is suggested as being easy to read and accessible.
  • A participant mentions being rusty on linear algebra and receives a recommendation for Axler's "Linear Algebra Done Right," highlighting its approach to complex vector spaces and linear transformations.
  • There is a discussion about the interests of participants, with one noting a focus on how group theory applies to condensed matter physics and quantum mechanics, and expressing interest in topology.
  • A participant confirms they checked out Tinkham's "Group Theory and Quantum Mechanics" from the library, considering it a gentle introduction.
  • Another participant recommends S.J. Joshua's "Symmetry Principles and Magnetic Symmetry in Solid State Physics," sharing a personal success story of using it to better understand Tinkham's material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants share various recommendations and personal experiences with different texts, but no consensus is reached on a single best book. Multiple competing views on the suitability of different texts for specific interests and backgrounds remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate a need for a solid foundation in linear algebra to fully engage with the recommended texts, suggesting that prior knowledge may influence the effectiveness of these resources.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in self-studying group theory, particularly those in physics at the graduate or advanced undergraduate level, may find this discussion beneficial.

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Hi, I'm interested in doing some self-study this summer and learning some group theory. This has come up a lot as I'm getting into graduate level physics courses, so I'd like a good solid introduction to it.

Any recommendations on a book? Preferably one that's at the level of an introductory graduate level/senior undergraduate text.

Thanks.
 
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Wu Ki Tung's book in the '80s is the one I like most. You should consider it.
 
Brian Hall's book on representation theory is very nice, very easy to read.
 
Thanks I'll check them out. I should point out that I'm a bit rusty on my linear algebra.
 
In that case, I also recommend Axler's Linear algebra done right. It works with complex vector spaces from the start, introduces linear transformations very early, is a bit more "proofy" than most introductory texts, and doesn't spend a lot of time on how to solve systems of linear equations, applications to geometry, etc. So it's great for people who have studied linear algebra before but have forgotten a lot.
 
What are your interests?

Wu Ki Tung is heavy on Lie groups for high energy/particle physics.

Tinkham is weighted towards solid state and atomic and molecular...

Both give very good intros provided you have the requisite math.
 
Dr Transport said:
What are your interests?

Wu Ki Tung is heavy on Lie groups for high energy/particle physics.

Tinkham is weighted towards solid state and atomic and molecular...

Both give very good intros provided you have the requisite math.

My interest is learning how group theory applies to condensed matter physics and quantum mechanics in general. Eventually I'd be interested in learning how it all leads into topology.

By Tinkham are you referring to, "Group theory and Quantum Mechanics"? If so, I actually already checked this book out of the library since it seemed like a gentle introduction compared to some of the other books I found there.
 
dipole said:
My interest is learning how group theory applies to condensed matter physics and quantum mechanics in general. Eventually I'd be interested in learning how it all leads into topology.

By Tinkham are you referring to, "Group theory and Quantum Mechanics"? If so, I actually already checked this book out of the library since it seemed like a gentle introduction compared to some of the other books I found there.

I would look for a copy of S.J. Joshua, Symmetry Principles and Magnetic Symmetry in Solid State Physics and work thru that first. I took a course from Tinkham's book during my first stint in graduate school and didn't do very well. When I went back, I found Joshua and did it from cover to cover (it has solutions in the back to check your work). I then redid Tinkham and I was much more successful in retaining the material which was very useful in my dissertation.
 

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