Question on hypothetical pure O2 atmosphere

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of creating a breathable atmosphere on Mars by extracting oxygen from ice. Participants explore the feasibility and stability of a pure oxygen atmosphere, including calculations related to the mass of ice required to achieve a specific atmospheric pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that to create a 20 kPa atmosphere of pure O2 on Mars, approximately 670 million metric tons of oxygen would be needed, based on their friend's calculations.
  • Another participant challenges this calculation, asserting that it is significantly underestimated and claims that around 870 million million metric tons of ice would actually be required, referencing Mars' mean radius and surface gravity.
  • A third participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the initial calculation, clarifying that the 670 million metric tons was intended for a 16 kPa atmosphere, not 20 kPa.
  • Further clarification is provided that the initial calculation error is off by a factor of 1 million, while the factor of 2 is deemed irrelevant in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculations regarding the mass of ice needed for a pure oxygen atmosphere, indicating multiple competing views and ongoing debate about the accuracy of the figures presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the calculations, including assumptions about the composition of ice and the definitions of atmospheric pressure. There are unresolved mathematical steps related to the conversion of ice volume to oxygen mass.

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Hello,

Due to all the buzz by Mars One, my friend and I have been discussing hypothetical possibilities for long term colonization of Mars. He suggests the only long term solution is to extract O2 from the Ice on Mars and give the planet a breathable atmosphere. he did the math and calculated that in order to give the planet a 20kPa atmosphere of pure O2 you would need 670 Million metric tons.

I am curious as to how stable a pure O2 atmosphere would be. I know it is a very reactive element so what would happen if you had an atmosphere of pure O2?

Thanks for any insights.
 
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I double checked with him, I was in error, his calculation of 670 Million Metric Tons was based on an end result of 16kPa, not the 20 I stated.
 
The calculation is off by a factor of 1 million, a factor of 2 does not matter here.
 

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