Determine whether there is a train collision

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two trains approaching each other on a straight track, with specific speeds and deceleration rates. The original poster is trying to determine if a collision occurs based on the distance between the trains and their braking distances.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula relating distance, velocity, and acceleration to predict a collision. Some participants suggest using separate equations for each train to account for their different speeds and braking behavior.

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Participants are actively discussing the correct approach to calculate the distances traveled by each train before stopping. There is a focus on ensuring consistent units and clarifying the equations needed to solve the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for separate calculations for each train.

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There are discussions about unit conversions and the necessity of using consistent units throughout the calculations. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup and the equations involved is being questioned and clarified.

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Two trains, one traveling at 60 miles/hr and the other at 80 miles/hr, are headed toward one another on a straight level track. When they are 2.0 miles apart, both engineers simultaneously see the other's train and apply their brakes. If the brakes decelerate each train at the rate of 3.0 ft/sec^2, determine whether there is a collision.

Ok, so is it correct to say that if d > \frac{(v_{1}-v_{2})^{2}}{2a} there will be no collision, and if d < \frac{(v_{1}-v_{2})^{2}}{2a} there will be a collision (d is distance, v is velocity, and a is acceleration). When I do this, I get that there will be a collision, but the correct answer is that there will be no collision. What am I doing wrong?

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You need to use two equations and see how far each train gets, and then see whether the sum is greater or less than 2 miles. The reason you can't get away with one equation is because once the 60 mph train stops, it doesn't start going backwards. It stops accelerating, but the 80 mph train continues slowing down. Plus, if you were going to do it that way, you would use v1+v2 in your equation, and 6 ft/sec^2 as the acceleration, since both trains are accelerating.
 
would I use x = x{0} + v_{x}_{0}t + \frac{1}{2}(v_{x}_{0} + v_{x})?
 
I think your last term should be 1/2 a t^2, and remember you need to find the t where each train stops and plug that into get x. You don't need an x_0, you just need to know if the total distance the trains travel once they start braking is more or less than 2 miles.
 
So v_{x} = v_{x}_{0} + a_{x}t. I got t = 20, t = 26.66 for 60 mph and 80 mph respectively. After plugging these times in x = v_{x}_{0}t + \frac{1}{2}a_{x}t^{2} I got 1066.1334 + 600 = 1666.1334 ft which is less than two miles. Is this correct?
 
Check your units again.
 
should i convert the acceleration from ft/sec to miles/hour? Also the time in seconds to time in minutes?
 
You just need to make sure everything has the same units of length and time (eg, feet and seconds).
 
but otherwise everything is correct?
 

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