Constraint forces Definition and 17 Threads
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A Virtual work of constraint forces in Hamilton’s principle
Goldstein 2ed pg 36 So in the case of holonomic constraints we can move back and forth between Hamiltons principle and Lagrange equations given as ##\frac{d}{d t}\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_{j}}\right)-\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_{j}}=0## But the Lagrange equations were... -
Constraint force using Lagrangian Multipliers
Consider the following setup where the bead can glide along the rod without friction, and the rod rotates with a constant angular velocity ##\omega##, and we want to find the constraint force using Lagrange multipliers. I chose the generalized coordinates ##q=\{r,\varphi\}## and the...- deuteron
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- Classical mechanics Constrained motion Constraint forces Lagrange multiplier
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I Constraint Forces and Lagrange Multipliers
My question is about the general relationship between the constraint functions and the constraint forces, but I found it easier to explain my problem over the example of a double pendulum: Consider a double pendulum with the generalized coordinates ##q=\{l_1,\theta_1,l_2,\theta_2\}##,: The...- deuteron
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- Classical mechanics Constraint Constraint forces Lagragian
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I Virtual work and constraint forces
Suppose I'm considering a system of N particles that are constrained in their possible motions and so there are less that 3N generalized coordinates. Suppose now I perform a virtual displacement on one particle, which due to some constraints might force some other particles to more virtually... -
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A Hamilton's principle and virtual work by constraint forces
Found a question on another website, I have the exact same question. Please help me Goldstein says : I do not understand how (2.34) shows that the virtual work done by forces of constraint is zero. How does the fact that "the same Hamilton's principle holds for both holonomic and... -
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I What is the Lagrangian with constraint forces?
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- Constraint Constraint forces Forces Lagrangian
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D'Alembert's principle and the work done by constraint forces
From what I understand, constraint forces do no work because they are perpendicular to the allowed virtual displacements of the system. However, if you consider an unbalanced Atwood machine, in which both masses are accelerating in opposite directions, you'll find that the tension force of the...- polytheneman
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- Classical mechanics Constraint Constraint forces Forces Lagrange Principle Virtual work Work Work done
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Constraint relation in a pulley spring system
Homework Statement How to apply constraints in the system to get a relationship between the displacements of block of mass m and pulley of mass M.? Homework Equations ∑T.a= 0 The Attempt at a Solution Assuming tension in both strings to be T . -T × a1 ( for the block) + 2T × a2 ( for the...- Shivang kohlii
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- Constraint Constraint forces Constraints Laws of motion Pulley Relation Spring System
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Complicated pulley system on an incline?
Homework Statement Under the action of force P the constant acceleration of B is 6 m/s^2 up the incline as in figure. For the instant when B's velocity is 3 m/s up incline, what is the velocity of point C? How do I solve this using constraints? [/B] Homework Equations For a pulley system ΣT.v...- Hema
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- Constrained motion Constraint forces Incline Pulley Pulley system Pulleys System
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Tension on the rope (classical mechanics problem)
Homework Statement The situation is that of Goldstein's problem 1.21 (or 1.19 in some editions): "Two mass points of mass m1 and m2 are connected by a string passing through a hole in a smooth table so that m1 rests on the table and m2 hangs suspended. Assume m2 moves only in a vertical line."...- allshaks
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- Classical mechanics Constraint forces Mechanics Rope Tension
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I Lagrangian with constraint forces
I am now reading Lagrange's equations part in Taylor's Classical Mechanics text. It says: When a system of interest involves constraint forces, F_cstr, and all the nonconstraint forces are derivable from a potential energy(U), then the Lagrangian for the system L is L = T - U, where U is the...- C. Lee
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- Constraint Constraint forces Forces Lagrangian
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Constraint Forces: Definition & Distinction
what is meant by constraint forces? do they refer to the forces that are considered non conservative? how can I distinguish them from other forces?- amjad-sh
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- Constraint Constraint forces Forces
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On constraint forces and d'Alembert's Principle
According to d'Alembert's Principle, the virtual work done by constraint forces must be zero. I have a few things needing to be clarified. First, as we know from friction, d'Alembert's Principle is not always true (friction usually does work, and is not normal to the constraint surface). On the...- Boorglar
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- Constraint Constraint forces Forces Principle
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Fictitious Forces ⇔ Constraint Forces? (re: D'Alembert's Principle)
Are fictitious forces and constraint forces the same thing?- Geremia
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- Constraint Constraint forces Fictitious forces Forces Principle
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Constraint Forces and Conservation of energy
Suppose you are trying the solve the equation of motion of say a particle constrained to move on a surface f(x\vec{},t)=0. The equation of motion is: mx\ddot{} = F\vec{} + N\vec{}, where F is an known external force and N is the unknown constraint force. Now, when you assume that N always...- tut_einstein
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- Conservation Conservation of energy Constraint Constraint forces Energy Forces
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What are the constraint forces on a circle with a particle?
when a particle is constraint to move on a circle, what are the constraint forces- usljoo
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- Circle Constraint Constraint forces Forces
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Constraint Forces: Definition & Necessity
the fundamental basis of the lagrangian formulation is the fact that the virtual displacement are perpendicular to the constraint forces so how does one define constraint forces? is it necessary for the virtual displacement consistent with the given constraints be perpendicular to the...- pardesi
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- Constraint Constraint forces Forces
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- Forum: Classical Physics