Event horizon Definition and 307 Threads

In my browsing around various science forums a have come across the comment that the gravity field becomes infinite at the event horizon. I have always thought that this is a misunderstanding, and that it only becomes infinite at the central singularity. Then I found this same statement in...

Hi all, this is a new scenario I got thinking about after having received great feedback and corrections from other PF'ers in this thread. Thanks again for the great help! This new scenario is similar to the previous one, but with a twist including a mirror. And as I said in that thread, I am...

Hi all, I've just read this entire thread and watched the videos about black holes posted by @PeroK, which I liked very much (thanks @PeroK! :smile:). I am not particularly well aquainted with GR and my questions are concerning the often mentioned statement that an observer that passes the...

Hi, When objects fall in a gravitational field, they convert gravitational potential energy into kinetic energy. Because energy is always conserved: amount of kinetic energy gained = amount of gravitational potential energy lost. Now the gravitational energy lost should be equal to the amount...

There is some confusion on my part what the actual reality is at the Event Horizon, since there appears to be different answers in using Kruskal-Szerrkes coordinates or Schwartzschild coordinates. Reality does not have two answers. There is only one right one. Asked multiple times on this...

Understanding that I might be pushing the limits into heuristic territory, I'm wondering how much agreement exists on whether the theory holds up in the proximity of an event horizon. This came up during a recent discussion about matter falling into the black hole and the Schwarzschild solution...

Summary: As hawking radiation is based on quantum fluctuations, can they cancel out each other due to equal probabilities of a particle remaining in or drifting away? I recently learned how hawking radiation actually works. It is based on quantum fluctuations which happen randomly in space...

Media Advisory: Press Conference on First Result from the Event Horizon Telescope April 10, 15:00 CEST (13:00 UTC. In 8 days and 13 hours) Livestream links are on that website. The Event Horizon Telescope is a collection of radio telescopes all over the world which recorded data from the...

A few years ago I became intrigued by articles reporting the discovery of stars very close to the purported Big Bang; 400 million years seems an awful short time for a star to evolve. Then more recently the discovery of 2nd generation - hydrogen, carbon stars - in the same proximity, supposedly...

Dear all, I have a question on Penrose diagrams. Consider a collapsing star that forms a black hole with a Schwarzschild radius normalized to 1. What happens in the Penrose diagram when additional matter falls in? I suspect the diagram then has to look like this : When the outer shell (second...

Scenario: You have two black holes approaching, one from the left (A), one from the right (B), each at speed S. They are offset vertically. S is sufficiently high that they will deflect passed each other without merging. Question: Suppose the speed S is high enough so that the event...

At the event horizon of a black hole, the curvature of space is infinite. Matter falling in therefore becomes accelerated to the speed of light. General relativity says infinite energy need to accelerate mass to the speed of light. Comments please

The furthest distance that we can see is defined by the Radius of the Particle Horizon which its nearly 46 Gly. However, the cosmic event horizon is nearly 16 Gly. Is this means the galaxies that further than the 16 Gly are just will stay the same in the sky? Since their light can never reach...

So when an object is falling towards a black hole, it's clock relative to us, outside observers, is slowing down. Until said object reaches the Schwarzschild radius and it stops completely. So how can that object ever cross the event horizon, if it is frozen in time?

@Grinkle recently asked a question about detecting crossing the event horizon, which got me thinking. I think that, at least in principle, I can deduce when I cross an event horizon with a "closed box" experiment, basically by measuring tidal forces. I'm planning to see if the maths works, but...

Folks usually point out that tidal forces make questions like the one I am asking below hypothetical at best, I understand that. I am taking as an axiom that a free-falling observer observes nothing unusual when crossing an event horizon. More strongly, the free-falling observer cannot detect...

Hello people, I have been thinking about a concept that I was taught whilst learning GR, If I understand correctly it is that Lorentz symmetry becomes local when we consider GR. This makes sense to me as then the metric is generally speaking not Minkowski, only for a...

I would like to know which of the following interpretations of what happens when a local observer with a non-zero mass (i.e. not a photon) crosses the event horizon of a black hole: 1. Not only does the falling observer not *notice* anything strange (because his/her clocks run proportionally...

Leonard Susskind said "everything that ever fell in, to make the black hole, [..] [is] all contained in [...] progressively thinner and thinner shells that approach the horizon asymptotically, never quite getting there" and from the perspective of someone outside the black hole "a shell, called...

If 2 black holes have event horizons slightly overlapping,can they ever be separated "theoretically" into 2 separate event horizons given we can apply extremely high forces to pull them apart or will it keep stretching and overlapping even if they are pulled apart?

Does the event horizon of a black hole really represents the surface of the "star" (or mass) itself? What I mean to say is: That the event horizon is the (let's say it this way) sphere surface where the scape velocity is => than the speed of light. So it is not necessary for event horizon to be...

Hello physics forum. I am not very well versed in physics, so this question could be a misfire, but I just wanted to clear this up. I watched one of Susskinds holographic principle lectures. So I get that Bob would see Alice turn into a hot mush of energy as she approaches an event horizon...

In a thread a decade ago https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-to-survive-in-a-black-hole-myth-debunked.170829/, there was a discussion about the paper https://arxiv.org/abs/0705.1029v1, in which the authors discuss the way to maximize one's survival (proper) time after passing the event...

Is is possible for Alice and Bob to find themselves on opposite sides of an event horizon and go about their experiments, without the fear that one of them might be mangled to death by tidal / differential gravitation effects?

My question is regarding how spacetime looks like beyond the event horizon of a black hole, in particular how distances behave. In the Minkowski diagram of a black hole, all paths leads to the singularity. But what is the magnitude of the distances involved here? Let's say a neutron star is...

I was just wondering as it seems pretty counter intuitive that there is a really defined horizon where light can't escape from a black hole. It would make more sense to me if light gradually curved into one. Or does it do this? Please enlighten me ;)!

Hi, Assuming an average Neutrino mass of 2.0 Electron volts how much mass will a black hole with an event horizon the size of the one at the center of our galaxy accrete in a year? I've seen estimates of how many Neutrinos pass through our bodies each second and it seems like the mas would...

I am wondering if there is some type of matter in the core of the Black Hole. Is it possible to compute the distance from the surface of the Black Hole Core to the Event Horizon? Oh that would be fun to calculate.

If you are observing a particle enter a black hole, you watch its proper time go to zero at the event horizon as it is 'frozen' there from your frame of reference. What happens in your reference frame as the black hole evaporates? While you can't illuminate where the particle is from your frame...

I have come across the following multi-explanations of how Hawking radiation/evaporation of a black hole happens: Particle/anti-particle story: particle/antiparticle pair creation from vacuum near the event get torn apart - one going into black hole, the other away; in some of these...

What occupies the space between a black hole's event horizon and the singularity? Stuff hurtling to the singularity? Vacuum?

I didnt understand a concept in black holes,So I ll try to make a vısualization to the process to explain my ideas properly. Let's suppose we have a star with mass ##6M_ο##.We know that this star will turn to black hole,So Let's come to the end of the life of the star.It will explode as...

If I passed within one meter of the event horizon of a supermassive black hole (where the tidal forces are trivial) and stuck out a two meter rod such that one meter of the rod was inside the event horizon, what would I see happen to the rod?

The Kerr metric for a black hole of mass ##M## and angular momentum ##J = aM## is $$ds^{2} = - \frac{\Delta(r)}{\rho^{2}}(dt-a\sin^{2}\theta d\phi)^{2} + \frac{\rho^{2}}{\Delta(r)}dr^{2} + \rho^{2} d\theta^{2} + \frac{1}{\rho^{2}}\sin^{2}\theta (adt - (r^{2}+a^{2}) d\phi)^{2},$$ where...

Suppose I am orbiting a black hole (BH) at some distance d outside its event horizon (EH), and with orbital velocity v. I do not like where I am, so I try to increase d by using an amount E of energy to increase my orbital velocity to v', where v' is whatever is necessary to escape the BH and...

We can write down the metric of the Schwarzschild black hole in Schwarzschild coordinates. Which aspect of the metric in Schwarzschild coordinates indicates that the coordinates are only valid outside the event horizon?

There is Hawking radiation associated with black hole event horizons. And there is Unruh radiation associated with horizons produced by acceleration. I've also heard some suggest that there is radiation associated with the cosmological event horizon due to space itself accelerating in its...

I have made graph of event horizon of Kerr black hole by giving simple command of polar plot. The problem is that the point where the event horizon and static limit meets should be along y-axis but instead its on x-axis. I have tried everything but not getting it right. What mistake I am...

Hello there, Suppose ## \Delta = r^2 + 2GMr + a^2## and ## \rho^2 = r^2 + a^2 \cos ^2 \theta ##. The Kerr metric is $$ ds^2 = - (1 - \frac{2GMr}{\rho^2})dt^2 - \frac{4GMar\sin^2 \theta}{\rho^2} d t d \phi + \frac{\rho^2}{\Delta} dr^2 + \rho^2 d \theta^2 + \frac{\sin^2 \theta}{\rho^2} \left[...

Assume a spherical region of breathable air just under the density needed to form a low density supermassive black hole. Two people float 20 feet apart from each other exchanging small talk. As gravity does its work, the spherical region holding the person closer to the center reaches the...

Hello! I'm having a hard time finding realistic black hole simulations, but I saw one recently (black hole size comparison on youtube) that showed the following 3 black holes (attached). I noticed that the larger the black hole, the smaller the "distortion zone" was relative to the radius of...

So in GR, for a classical black hole, if A is approaching the event horizon, to an observer far away, let say B, B would never observe A crossing the event horizon as B would observe A's time slow down in the limit to 0 and A's length contract in the limit to 0. In fact, according to B, A never...

Do laws of physics apply below the event horizon? It appears as if black holes had such gravity as to have an escapr velocity higher than c, which means that things are pulled inwards at higher speeds than the speed of light. Or am I overlooking something?

This question is regarding classical black holes. So inside the event horizon, spacetime behaves strangely. Space is now one dimensional and only in the forward direction(that is, into the singularity) and time of events is preceived as forward and backwards since light from a source comes...

I know this is (probably) not going to work.. But I can't figure out why not :-) So here is the theoretical situation... Lets say we have 2 black holes that, somehow, we can perfectly control (velocity, position, rotation etc. etc.). Now, one of my probes accidentally falls into one of the...

Its thought that nothing can escape a black hole (correct me if I'm wrong) but what happens when a larger black hole eats a smaller one? Could there be a instance in time where matter was torn out of the smaller black hole, past its event horizon and into the bigger one? Thanks!

What happens to the information about the objects falling into the black hole? Are their states somehow contained in the Hawking Radiation, and if so, how? Or is the information scrambled as it passes the EH?

If there were 2 observers, 1 at rest with CMB, and the other falling into a black hole, how much time passes for the observer at rest with CMB while the other falls past the event horizon? I ask because I keep reading that time dilation (due to gravity) will cause the object falling into appear...

I have a doubt about black holes. (I'm sorrying for my poor English.): 1 - Does an observer outside a black hole see forever (i.e. his lifetime) a object stationary when it reaches the event horizon? 2 - Or photons emitted by the object have its wavelength so red-shifted that the observer...

Learning about Schwarzschild radius from Wikipedia: Is it accurate to say any object of mass crossing the event horizon of a black hole is compressed sufficiently to have its own Schwarzschild radius, becoming a black hole itside of a black hole?