-1.3.14 Verify the following given functions is a solution

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether a given function is a solution to a specific differential equation, focusing on the computation of the derivative and the application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to differential equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the function \( y = e^{t^2}\int_{0}^{t} e^{-s^2}\,ds + e^{t^2} \) and expresses confusion about the integral when differentiating.
  • Another participant suggests computing the derivative \( y' \) and substituting it into the differential equation to check for an identity, referencing the derivative form of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.
  • A participant calculates \( y' \) as \( e^{t^2} e^{-t^2} + e^{t^2} \), but another participant points out that this is incorrect and provides a more detailed differentiation using the product rule, leading to a more complex expression for \( y' \).
  • There is a question about why the integral does not disappear during differentiation, which is clarified by a participant explaining the application of the product rule.
  • Further elaboration on the differentiation process is provided, breaking down the components of the product rule and confirming the expression for \( y' \) as \( 2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}\,ds + 1 + 2te^{t^2} \).
  • Finally, a participant attempts to substitute the derived \( y' \) back into the differential equation to verify the solution, leading to an identity that simplifies to \( 1 = 1 \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion reflects a mix of agreement on the differentiation process and the application of the product rule, but there are disagreements on the initial steps and interpretations of the integral's behavior during differentiation. The verification of the solution remains a point of contention, as participants work through the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the differentiation of the integral and the application of the product rule, indicating potential limitations in understanding the steps involved. The discussion does not resolve all mathematical steps clearly, leaving some assumptions and interpretations open to further clarification.

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$\textsf{ 1.3.14 Verify the following given functions is a solution of the differential equation}\\ \\$
$\displaystyle y'-2ty=1\\$
$\displaystyle y=e^{{t}^2}\int_{0}^{t} e^{- s^2}\,ds+e^{t^2}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
&=
\end{align*}

ok this one kinda baffled by the $\int$

presume to do it first before the d/dx
 
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You are given $y$, and from this you need to compute $y'$, so you can then substitute both into the given ODE and see if an identity results. Also, recall the derivative form of the FTOC:

$$\frac{d}{dx}\left(\int_a^x f(t)\,dt\right)=f(x)$$

So, use this along with the product and exponential rules to compute $y'$...what do you get?
 
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$\displaystyle y=e^{{t}^2}\int_{0}^{t} e^{- s^2}\,ds+e^{t^2}$

thus??

$\displaystyle y'=e^{{t}^2} e^{- t^2}+e^{t^2}$
 
karush said:
$\displaystyle y=e^{{t}^2}\int_{0}^{t} e^{- s^2}\,ds+e^{t^2}$

thus??

$\displaystyle y'=e^{{t}^2} e^{- s^2}+e^{t^2}$

No...sorry, but you didn't differentiate anything. What you want is:

$$y'=2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}\,ds+e^{t^2}e^{-t^2}+2te^{t^2}=2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}\,ds+1+2te^{t^2}$$
 
so why didn't the $\int$ disappear?
 
karush said:
so why didn't the $\int$ disappear?

Because when we apply the product rule, it doesn't get differentiated in one of the resulting terms. :)
 
$\textit{so...,}\\ $
$(uv)'+u'=u'v+uv'+u'$
$\textit{thus,}\\
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
{u}&={e^{{t}^2}} &u'&=2te^{t^2} \\
{v}&={\int_{0}^{t} e^{- s^2}\,ds} &v'&=e^{-t^2}
\end{align*}$
$\textit{as given,}\\ $
$\displaystyle y=
e^{{t}^2}\int_{0}^{t} e^{- s^2}\,ds+e^{t^2}$
$\displaystyle y'=
2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}\,ds
+e^{t^2}e^{-t^2}+2te^{t^2}\\
=2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}\,ds+1+2te^{t^2}$
 
then
$\displaystyle y'-2ty=1\\$

$2te^{t^2}\int_0^t e^{-s^2}\,ds+1+2te^{t^2}
-2t(e^{{t}^2}\int_{0}^{t} e^{- s^2}\,ds+e^{t^2})=1$
by distribution and canceling
$1=1$
 

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