1.5 hours wasted on this Complex Fraction; Darn these -1's for (1-b)'s

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The problem involves simplifying a complex fraction expressed as a - (a / (1 - (a / (1 - a)))). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the manipulation of the fraction, particularly when factoring out a -1 from the denominator.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various attempts to simplify the fraction, noting the confusion around the negative signs and the equivalence of their results to the book's answer. Some question the need for simplification and express frustration with the complexity of the problem.

Discussion Status

There is recognition that the original poster's answer is mathematically equivalent to the book's answer, with some participants offering reassurance and suggesting that the confusion stems from the presentation of the answers rather than a misunderstanding of the concepts. The discussion remains open with participants sharing their experiences and feelings about similar challenges.

Contextual Notes

Participants reflect on their experiences with high school math and express concerns about their readiness for future studies in engineering, indicating a broader context of anxiety around mathematical understanding.

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Homework Statement



a - \frac {a}{1-\frac{a}{1-a}}

The Attempt at a Solution



\frac{a}{1-a} This might be the part where I am confused. I always get confused when I need to factor out a -1 from this fraction's denominator in order to put it into the form of \frac{a}{a-1}

So here is my attempt (3 other attempts were made, but that will take way too long to convert to latex (I'm newbie at it):

a - \frac {a}{1-\frac{a}{1-a}} = a - \frac {a}{1+\frac{a}{a-1}} This is the part where I factored out a -1 from the \frac{a}{1-a}

LCM of complex fraction = a-1

= a-\frac{a^2-a}{a-1+a}

= \frac {2a^2-a-a^2+a}{a-1+a}= \frac{a^2}{2a-1}

The book's answer: -\frac {a^2}{1-2a}

Arghh.. what the heck! :cry:
 
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Raizy said:
= \frac {2a^2-a-a^2+a}{a-1+a}= \frac{a^2}{2a-1}

The book's answer: -\frac {a^2}{1-2a}

Arghh.. what the heck! :cry:

Your answer is mathematically equivalent to the books answer...just multiply the numerator and denominator by -1
 
lol so you went through all this grief just because the book's answer was less simplified than yours. Hey, at least you're smarter than the book now :wink:

What gabbagabbahey was saying is that:

-\frac{a^2}{1-2a} =\frac{-a^2}{1-2a} =\frac{-(-a^2)}{-(1-2a)} =\frac{a^2}{2a-1}
 
gaaahhh... this is so ?? High school math... you're always left wondering how these algorithms work, and you need to be 99.98 percentile to figure it out. Am I suffering the same feeling as most high school students? Do you think this is a bad sign that I will be miserable if I take up engineering, if I'm already clueless on this stuff?

Anyways... time to start a new thread, this time with I think two complex fractions, one within another (in the denominator). :cry:
 
This kind of stuff reminds me of how clueless our entire class was at proving trigonometric functions. So much manipulating and we were still getting nowhere fast. It just took practice, and now I rock at it! Just keep trying, you'll be fine.
Besides, I'm sure you probably knew about multiplying the numerator and denominator by -1, but failed to notice that the answer in the book compared to your answer was just that, because of your frustration.
 

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