1D Elastic Collision between an Elephant and a Fly

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The discussion revolves around a one-dimensional elastic collision problem involving an elephant and a fly. The original poster attempts to find the final velocity of the fly after the collision, given the initial velocity of the elephant and the relationship between their masses.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the mass relationship between the elephant and the fly, questioning how the significantly larger mass of the elephant affects the calculations. There is a focus on how to simplify the equation without knowing the exact masses.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the mass of the fly can be disregarded due to its small size compared to the elephant, leading to a conceptual understanding of the collision dynamics. The discussion is progressing with participants engaging in reasoning about the implications of mass ratios.

Contextual Notes

The problem is constrained by the lack of specific mass values, which participants are navigating in their reasoning. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the masses rather than calculating exact values.

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Homework Statement
A hovering fly is approached by an enraged elephant charging at 2.1 m/s. Assuming that the collision is elastic at what speed does the fly rebound? Note that the projectile(the elephant) is much more massive than the stationary target (the fly)
Relevant Equations
1-D Elastic collisions where v2 = 0:
v'1 = ((m1-m2)/m1+m2)*v1
v'2 = (2m1/(m1+m2))*v1
1 = elephant
2 = fly
So I am trying to find v'2 which is the final velocity of the fly. I have v1 the initial velocity of the elephant 2.1m/s. So I plug it into the equation and have v'2=(2m1/(m1+m2))*2.1m/s. We are not given the masses so I just know m1>m2 but I don't understand how that will help me, or how we can get rid of the masses to solve the equation.
 
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If m1>>m2, what does that say about their sum and difference?
 
That they are both positive?
 
ObitoLegend said:
That they are both positive?
What is 1 million plus or minus one? How does it compare to 1 million?
 
ohh so I can disregard m2 because m2 is so small compared to m1
 
ObitoLegend said:
ohh so I can disregard m2 because m2 is so small compared to m1
Yes. The elephant is a moving wall essentially.
 
got it thank you!
 
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