1D Elastic Collision between an Elephant and a Fly

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final velocity of a fly (m2) after a 1D elastic collision with an elephant (m1) using the formula v'2=(2m1/(m1+m2))*v1, where v1 is the initial velocity of the elephant at 2.1 m/s. Participants clarify that since the mass of the elephant (m1) is significantly greater than that of the fly (m2), the mass of the fly can be disregarded in the calculation. This simplification allows for a clearer understanding of the collision dynamics, treating the elephant as a stationary wall during the impact.

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Homework Statement
A hovering fly is approached by an enraged elephant charging at 2.1 m/s. Assuming that the collision is elastic at what speed does the fly rebound? Note that the projectile(the elephant) is much more massive than the stationary target (the fly)
Relevant Equations
1-D Elastic collisions where v2 = 0:
v'1 = ((m1-m2)/m1+m2)*v1
v'2 = (2m1/(m1+m2))*v1
1 = elephant
2 = fly
So I am trying to find v'2 which is the final velocity of the fly. I have v1 the initial velocity of the elephant 2.1m/s. So I plug it into the equation and have v'2=(2m1/(m1+m2))*2.1m/s. We are not given the masses so I just know m1>m2 but I don't understand how that will help me, or how we can get rid of the masses to solve the equation.
 
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If m1>>m2, what does that say about their sum and difference?
 
That they are both positive?
 
ObitoLegend said:
That they are both positive?
What is 1 million plus or minus one? How does it compare to 1 million?
 
ohh so I can disregard m2 because m2 is so small compared to m1
 
ObitoLegend said:
ohh so I can disregard m2 because m2 is so small compared to m1
Yes. The elephant is a moving wall essentially.
 
got it thank you!
 
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