2 best scifi books I've read in 10 years

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The discussion revolves around the favorite science fiction books of participants, specifically highlighting works by Greg Bear, including "Anvil of Stars" and "Forge of God." The conversation also touches on the authorship of "Ender's Game" and opinions about the authors involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express admiration for Greg Bear's works, particularly "Anvil of Stars" and "Forge of God," with one participant calling "Forge of God" one of the best.
  • One participant mentions a dislike for Orson Scott Card due to perceived homophobic views but acknowledges "Ender's Game" as a strong book.
  • Another participant mistakenly attributes "Ender's Game" to Greg Bear, prompting clarification that it was written by Orson Scott Card.
  • There is a mention of a controversial piece by Orson Scott Card that has resurfaced in the news, with a participant providing a detailed, conspiratorial interpretation of its implications.
  • One participant expresses anticipation for watching the film adaptation of "Ender's Game," while another questions the sincerity of this enthusiasm.
  • A participant shares a negative opinion about Greg Bear's "Hull Zero Three," stating they were not impressed by it.

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Participants express a mix of admiration and criticism regarding the authors discussed, with no consensus on the overall quality of the works or the authors' reputations. Disagreements about the authorship of "Ender's Game" and differing opinions on the authors' personal views contribute to an unresolved discussion.

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Some statements reflect personal opinions about the authors' characters and reputations, which may not be universally accepted or verified. The discussion includes speculative claims regarding political implications related to Orson Scott Card's writings.

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Greg Bears

Book one:
Anvil of Stars

Book two:
Forge of God

Anyone else a fan of these books?
I guess I am just a hard scifi addict.
 
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I am not a fan of the author (homophobic), but Ender's Game was a killer.
 
Is Greg Bear a homosexual? I had no idea.
Are you serious?
 
turbo said:
I am not a fan of the author (homophobic), but Ender's Game was a killer.

Greg bear didn't write Enders game, Orson Scott card did. He's in hot water again, though I'm not sure why the piece he wrote in May is in the news today.
 
This is the recent piece gmax is referring to, it adds tin-foil conspiracy theorist to the list of Card's characteristics

This is because Michelle Obama is going to be Barack's Lurleen Wallace. Remember how George Wallace got around Alabama's ban on governors serving two terms in a row? He ran his wife for the office. Everyone knew Wallace would actually be pulling the strings, even though they denied it.

Michelle Obama will be Obama's designated "successor," and any Democrat who seriously opposes her will be destroyed in the media the way everyone who contested Obama's run for the Democratic nomination in 2008 was destroyed.

But the plan goes deeper than this. Barack Obama, like Hitler and the Iranian dictators, announced his plan, though the media (as with Hitler) has "forgotten" it.

Barack Obama needs to have a source of military power that is under his direct control. Like Hitler, he needs a powerful domestic army to terrify any opposition that might arise.

Obama called for a "national police force" in 2008, though he never gave a clue about why such a thing would be necessary. We have the National Guard. We have the armed forces. The FBI. The Secret Service. And all the local and state police forces.

The trouble is that all of these groups have long independent histories and none of them is reliably under Barack Obama's personal control. He needs Brown Shirts -- thugs who will do his bidding without any reference to law.

Obama will claim we need a national police force in order to fight terrorism and crime. The Boston bombing is a useful start, especially when combined with random shootings by crazy people.

Where will he get his "national police"? The NaPo will be recruited from "young out-of-work urban men" and it will be hailed as a cure for the economic malaise of the inner cities.

In other words, Obama will put a thin veneer of training and military structure on urban gangs, and send them out to channel their violence against Obama's enemies.

Instead of doing drive-by shootings in their own neighborhoods, these young thugs will do beatings and murders of people "trying to escape" -- people who all seem to be leaders and members of groups that oppose Obama.

Already the thugs who serve the far left agenda of Obama's team do systematic character assassination as a means of intimidating their opponents into silence. But physical beatings and "legal" disappearances will be even more effective -- as Hitler and Putin and many other dictators have demonstrated over and over.
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2013-05-09-1.html
 
Greg Bear is one of my favorites, SF or otherwise. Especially his Forge of God--IMO one of the best. His other near-future series, Quantico and Mariposa, are superb also.
 
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i read this author's Hull Zero Three, not impressed by it.
 

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