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The discussion revolves around the nature of the strong nuclear force, particularly its relationship with distance and the properties it acts upon. Participants explore theoretical aspects, potential equations, and the implications of these concepts in the context of atomic structure.

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  • One participant questions how the strong nuclear force can be directly proportional to distance, expressing confusion about the implications for atomic spacing.
  • Another participant notes that there is no closed form equation for the strong force's relationship to distance but suggests an approximate equation that includes both linear and inverse components.
  • It is mentioned that the strong force acts on "color charge," a fundamental property of particles.
  • A participant introduces the concept of 'saturation' of the strong force, explaining that particles interact strongly only with a limited number of neighbors.
  • There is a clarification regarding the distinction between the strong force acting on colored particles (like quarks) versus color-neutral particles (like nucleons), with references to different potential approximations.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the strong nuclear force and its mathematical representation, indicating that multiple competing models and interpretations remain in the discussion.

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Limitations include the lack of a definitive equation for the strong nuclear force, dependence on the definitions of color charge and saturation, and unresolved aspects of the potential approximations discussed.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying nuclear physics, particle physics, or anyone looking to understand the complexities of fundamental forces in the universe.

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How is it possible that the strong nuclear force is directly proportional to distance?
How could all the atoms in the universe be so far apart if this were the case? The fact that I can't find an equation for the strong nuclear force makes me think it's just not that simple. Could someone tell me...
1. ...what property the strong nuclear force acts on?
2. ...what it's actual relationship to distance is?

I'm not a layman, but I obviously haven't taken much QM, so, I'd greatly appreciate details, but maybe hold the jargon, if possible.

Thank you much.
 
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There is no closed form equation that relates the strength of the strong force to distance, although there are some approximate equations that seem to fit the data pretty well, i think it looks something like:
<br /> V_{strong}(r) \propto \frac{1}{r} + r<br />
So the potential has both a linear, and inverse relationship with distance.

The strong force acts on "color charge" which is just some fundamental property of particles.

The reason why things in the universe are so far apart is that the strong force can be 'saturated.' Particles only experience strong-interactions with a handful of neighboring particles.
 
What do you mean by strong force? Force between colored particles like quarks, or force between color-neutral particles like nucleons.

The color-electric potential (which is a low-energy approx. as explained above) has a linear term ~r which eventually confines colored particles within color-neutral hadrons. The residual strong nuclear force between color-neutral particles has an approx with exp(-mr) where m is the pion mass.
 

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