2018 Russia / 2022 Qatar World Cup

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of Russia and Qatar as hosts for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, respectively. Participants express their thoughts on the suitability of these venues, considering factors such as infrastructure, climate, and the historical context of soccer in these countries.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disbelief that Qatar was chosen, citing its lack of soccer history and concerns about extreme summer heat.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential impact on players and fans due to high temperatures and limited outdoor activities.
  • Several participants argue that England would have been a more suitable choice due to its existing infrastructure and football culture.
  • Some participants suggest that the decisions may be influenced by corruption within FIFA, questioning the integrity of the bidding process.
  • There are mixed opinions on Qatar's potential as a footballing nation, with some asserting it lacks the necessary history and others suggesting it could improve by 2022.
  • Participants note the significant construction of new stadiums in both Russia and Qatar, with skepticism about their long-term utility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the suitability of Qatar and Russia as World Cup hosts, with multiple competing views on the implications of their selections and the influence of corruption in the bidding process.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the extreme climate conditions expected in Qatar and the potential logistical challenges for fans and players, while others question the long-term viability of the newly built stadiums.

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For you soccer fans I want to hear your thoughts on the new world cup venues just announced.

Personally I can handle Russia even though I can't believe they beat out Spain/Portugal. But Qatar is beyond my imagination. It must be corruption.

1. Qatar has zero soccer history.
2. It's in a fairly high risk environment.
3. Summer heat gets to 120F. Tourists won't be able to venture outside.
4. No public drinking.
5. Can you imagine how badly the Qatar national team will play?

The UAE would have been a better choice. I've been to Doha Qatar and it is nice for a day in "winter", but overall I've had more fun in a cornfield in Iowa. Qatar beat out Australia. Now that would have been a great time!
 
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Indeed it is going to be horrible, but were you actually planning on going?
if no one goes the mistake these guys made will be obvious

I feel worst for the Players... they have to go
 
hmmm...Qatar doesn't sound a good choice to me as well. However we're talking about 2022 and who knows? Maybe everything would change even the hot weather.:-p
 
Qatar have the money!

I don't understand how the results went this way: Russia now have to build 18 new stadia and Qatar are building 22, all to be destroyed after the world cup. Neither are footballing countries. England, on the other hand, has all the stadia in place, some used to dealing with nearly 80,000 fans safely on a weekly basis, has the infrastructure to enable fans to get from one stadium to another without having to take a three or four hour flight and is a country that live and breathe football, if not the home of football.

Of course, it's clear why England didn't win the bid since the British media actually investigate corruption and don't cover it up.
 
cristo said:
Russia now have to build 18 new stadia and Qatar are building 22, all to be destroyed after the world cup. Neither are footballing countries.

A case can be made that Russia has the potential to be a footballing nation. But Qatar, never. Qatar has the money now, but 2022 who knows. They may end up in some real financial trouble by the end.
 
I'm stunned by both choices.

In the case of Russia, it's only because England would have been the safe bet - the infrastructure is already in place to ensure a profitable World Cup. All would be decent choices.

I'm really shocked by the choice of Qatar. Temperatures over 100 degrees are going to be brutal. I take it all of the games will have to be played at night?
 
BobG said:
I'm really shocked by the choice of Qatar. Temperatures over 100 degrees are going to be brutal. I take it all of the games will have to be played at night?

All 22 stadiums to be built will be indoor with A/C along with dozens of training grounds. I was in Doha this past June and it was like walking in a furnace. People will be shuttled from hotel to stadium to hotel. Doesn't sound like fun. Doha has a nice corniche and a great Islamic museum. Other than that, the place is a real bore. I don't get it.
 
But Qatar are really good at football:

 
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cristo said:
But Qatar are really good at football:

He used the outside of his left foot, lol.
 
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oh man that guy knows he is totally getting shot after the game ha
 
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Venue suitability probably has nothing to do with it. The game is about bribing FIFA members to vote a certain way. Twenty two members voting secretly smells bad. England only managing two votes smells bad. By the time 2018/2022 comes around, the lined pockets will be long empty and venue controversies will be somebody elses fault.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
He used the outside of his left foot, lol.
I've done that before, but I would tap from the side rather than behind the ball, and I reduced the forward momentum of the ball. Optionally would have been an inside sidekick with the right foot from behind.

Who knows what Russia will look like in 2018. Qatar has the money, and I think they could pull it off, especially if they have the right kind stadia.
 

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