MHB 205.8.9 Find the derivative of the function

Click For Summary
The discussion focuses on finding the derivative of the function y = cos(tan(5t-4)) using the chain rule. The substitution u = tan(5t-4) simplifies the differentiation process, leading to the expression -5sec²(5t-4)sin(tan(5t-4)). Participants express confusion about the u substitution but confirm that the derived result matches the output from an online calculator. There's an emphasis on the importance of clearly defining substitutions to simplify calculations. The conversation highlights the preference for forums over online calculators for step-by-step explanations.
karush
Gold Member
MHB
Messages
3,240
Reaction score
5
205.8.9 Find the derivative of the function
$y=\cos(\tan(5t-4))\\$
chain rule $u=\tan(5t-4)$
$\frac{d}{du}\cos{(u)} \frac{d}{dt}\tan{\left(5t-4\right)}\\$
then
$-\sin{\left (u \right )}\cdot 5 \sec^{2}{\left (5 t - 4 \right )}\\$
replacing u with $\tan(5t-4)$
$-\sin{(\tan(5t-4))}\cdot 5 \sec^{2}{(5t-4)}\\$
$W\vert A$ returns

$-5\sec^2(5t-4)\sin(\tan(5t-4))$

ok I got confused on this u substitution thing but still seems to match the $W\vert A$ return
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I would write:

$$y'=-\sin\left(\tan(5t-4)\right)\sec^2(5t-4)(5)=-5\sec^2(5t-4)\sin\left(\tan(5t-4)\right)\quad\checkmark$$
 
Cool

I formerly ran this through eHm
but like 27 steps...

I really question these "show steps"
on online calculators ..
Forums much better
 
karush said:
205.8.9 Find the derivative of the function
$y=\cos(\tan(5t-4))\\$
chain rule $u=\tan(5t-4)$
$\frac{d}{du}\cos{(u)} \frac{d}{dt}\tan{\left(5t-4\right)}\\$
then
$-\sin{\left (u \right )}\cdot 5 \sec^{2}{\left (5 t - 4 \right )}\\$
replacing u with $\tan(5t-4)$
$-\sin{(\tan(5t-4))}\cdot 5 \sec^{2}{(5t-4)}\\$
$W\vert A$ returns

$-5\sec^2(5t-4)\sin(\tan(5t-4))$

ok I got confused on this u substitution thing but still seems to match the $W\vert A$ return
It is a good idea to explictely write u= tan(5t-4) so that y= cos(u). I would go a step further and write v= 5t- 4 so that u= tan(v). Then the chain rule says that dy/dx= (dy/du)(du/dx)= (dy/du)(du/dv)(dv/dx)= (-sin(u))(sec^2(v))(5)= (-sin(tan(5t-4)))(sec^2(5t-4))(5).
 
Thread 'Problem with calculating projections of curl using rotation of contour'
Hello! I tried to calculate projections of curl using rotation of coordinate system but I encountered with following problem. Given: ##rot_xA=\frac{\partial A_z}{\partial y}-\frac{\partial A_y}{\partial z}=0## ##rot_yA=\frac{\partial A_x}{\partial z}-\frac{\partial A_z}{\partial x}=1## ##rot_zA=\frac{\partial A_y}{\partial x}-\frac{\partial A_x}{\partial y}=0## I rotated ##yz##-plane of this coordinate system by an angle ##45## degrees about ##x##-axis and used rotation matrix to...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
896
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
4K