206.r2.11find the power series representation

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The discussion revolves around finding the power series representation for the function \( f(x) = \frac{x^7}{3 + 5x^2} \), including the interval of convergence and the derivative of the series. The context includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to power series and derivatives.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the power series can be expressed as \( f(x) = \frac{x^7}{3} \cdot \frac{1}{1 - \left(-\frac{5}{3}x^2\right)} \), leading to a series representation involving \( \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \left(-\frac{5}{3}x^2\right)^k \).
  • Others note that the expression in step 3 incorporates the \( \frac{x^7}{3} \) term and that the series can be rewritten as \( \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^k 5^k x^{2k+7}}{3^{k+1}} \).
  • A participant questions the origin of the term in equation (3) and suggests it resembles a Bessel function of order 0.
  • There is a discussion about a potential typo in the derivative expression, specifically regarding the presence of "a" in the exponent of \( x \) in equation (4), which some participants believe should not be there.
  • Another participant highlights that the factor of 7 in the derivative is missing and clarifies that the correct form should include \( (2k + 7) \) as part of the derivative expression.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivation of certain terms and the presence of typos, indicating that there is no consensus on the correctness of the expressions presented. Multiple viewpoints on the series representation and the derivative exist, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying the series expansion and the treatment of derivatives, particularly regarding the missing factors in the expressions. The discussion also reflects confusion over the notation and terms used in the series representation.

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$\tiny{206.r2.11}$
$\textsf{find the power series represntation for
$\displaystyle f(x)=\frac{x^7}{3+5x^2}$
(state the interval of convergence),
then find the derivative of the series}$
\begin{align}
f(x)&=\frac{x^7}{3}\implies\frac{1}{1-\left(-\frac{5}{3}x^2\right)}&(1)\\
&=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\left(-\frac{5}{3}x^2\right)^k &(2)\\
&=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^k 5^k x^{2k+7}}{3^{k+1}} &(3)\\
f'(x)&=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^k 5^k x^{2k+6a}}{3^{k+1}} &(4)
\end{align}
$\textit{not sure where eq (3) comes from... looks like
Bessel function order 0...}\\$
$\textit{this was from a handwritten example very hard to read! if so the radius of convergence $=\infty$}$
 
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Re: 206.r2.11find the power series represntation

karush said:
$\tiny{206.r2.11}$
$\textsf{find the power series represntation for
$\displaystyle f(x)=\frac{x^7}{3+5x^2}$
(state the interval of convergence),
then find the derivative of the series}$
\begin{align}
f(x)&=\frac{x^7}{3}\implies\frac{1}{1-\left(-\frac{5}{3}x^2\right)}&(1)\\
&=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\left(-\frac{5}{3}x^2\right)^k &(2)\\
&=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^k 5^k x^{2k+7}}{3^{k+1}} &(3)\\
f'(x)&=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^k 5^k x^{2k+6a}}{3^{k+1}} &(4)
\end{align}
$\textit{not sure where eq (3) comes from... looks like
Bessel function order 0...}\\$
$\textit{this was from a handwritten example very hard to read! if so the radius of convergence $=\infty$}$
The expression in step 2 is for [math]\frac{1}{1 - \left ( - \frac{5}{3} x^2 \right ) }[/math].

When step 3 comes along they brought back in the [math]x^7 / 3[/math] part. We also have that [math](-1)^k 5^k / 3^{k + 1}[/math] is simply the expanded form of [math](1/3)(-5/3)^k[/math]. I don't know why they expanded that.

Finally, in step 4 the "a" after the exponent 6 should not be there (typo?) and the factor of 7 from the derivative is missing.

-Dan
 
ok thanks for eexpanding on this
the examples in the book had the factoral ! in them so I assuume whaever was just 1.
the 6a is my typo

factor of 7 ?
 
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karush said:
ok thanks for eexpanding on this
the examples in the book had the factoral ! in them so I assuume whaever was just 1.
the 6a is my typo
No factorials here since we are dealing with a geometric series. This form doesn't use them.

factor of 7 ?
Sorry, there is a missing factor of 2k + 7, not just the 7. Line 4 is the derivative of line 3. The exponent is reduced but the factor is not there. The expression should be
[math]f'(x) = \sum_{k = 0}^{\infty} (2k + 7) \frac{(-1)^k 5^k}{3^{k + 1}} x^{2k + 6}[/math]

-Dan
 

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