2nd order ODE's odd and even functions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of even and odd functions in the context of solving second-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs). Participants explore how the nature of the function on the right-hand side (RHS) affects the general solution, particularly focusing on the role of Fourier series in determining the particular integral and the complementary function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the even nature of the RHS function implies that the constant B in the complementary function must be zero.
  • Another participant argues that the presence of Bsin(ωt) does not affect the validity of the solution, suggesting that the general solution can include this term regardless of the evenness of the RHS function.
  • There is a clarification that the even or odd nature of the function influences the Fourier series used to find the particular integral, but does not affect the complementary function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the constant B must be zero when the RHS function is even. While one participant asserts it must be zero, another counters this claim, indicating that the general solution can still include the Bsin(ωt) term. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the evenness of the function on the general solution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the definitions of even and odd functions and their roles in the context of second-order linear ODEs. There are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of these properties on the general solution.

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Hi

I have been looking at some lecture notes inc the following example. Solve :
y'' + ω^2y = (some even function)
The particular integral is then found using Fourier series. As the function on the RHS is even this only includes cosine terms.
The complementary function is found from the homogeneous equation and is
y= Acos(ωt) + Bsin(ωt)

The general solution is the P.I. + C.F. My question is ; as the original function is even does that mean the constant B must equal zero in all cases ?

In general for a 2nd order inhomogeneous linear ODE if the function on the RHS is odd or even does that imply anything about the general solution ?
 
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hi ppy! :smile:
ppy said:
The general solution is the P.I. + C.F. My question is ; as the original function is even does that mean the constant B must equal zero in all cases ?

no

if y is a solution of y'' + ω2y = f(t),

then y + Bsinωt will be also, since:

(y + Bsinωt)'' + ω2(y + Bsinωt)

= y'' + ω2y + (Bsinωt)'' + ω2Bsinωt

= f(t) + 0 :wink:
 
thanks for that.
So when working out the particular integral the odd or even-ness of the function affects the Fourier series ? But for the complementary function it has no effect ?
 
that's right :smile:

you can add any complementary solution to your particular solution, and still have a solution …

(that's fairly easy to prove quite generally, by the same method i used above)
 
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