3.13 Compute the orders of the following groups:

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The discussion revolves around computing the orders of the groups $U(3)$, $U(4)$, $U(12)$, $U(5)$, and $U(15)$. Participants are exploring the properties of the Euler's totient function and its implications for the orders of these groups, as well as conjecturing about the relationships among the orders of these groups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the order of $U(n)$ is given by the Euler's totient function $\varphi(n)$ and provides some properties of $\varphi(n)$.
  • Another participant questions the origin of the elements {1,5,7,11} in $U(12)$ and seeks clarification on the statement that "every element of $U(12)$ has order of 1 or 2".
  • There is a suggestion that $U(3) = \{1, 2\}$ and $U(5) = \{1, 4\}$, indicating a search for specific group elements.

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Participants are not in full agreement on the specific elements of the groups or the reasoning behind the orders, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple viewpoints and questions raised.

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There are limitations regarding the clarity of how certain elements are derived and the conditions under which the properties of the Euler's totient function apply. Some assumptions about the groups and their elements are not fully explored.

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This discussion may be useful for those interested in group theory, particularly in understanding the structure of unit groups and the application of the Euler's totient function.

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Compute the orders of the following groups: $U(3), U(4), U(12)$ and $U(3), U(5), U(15)$.
On the basis of your answers, make a conjecture about the relationship among $|U(r)|, |U(s)|$, and $|U(rs)|$.

ok I still don't have a clear idea on how to do this $ax=1$
$U(3)=3$
 
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karush said:
Compute the orders of the following groups: $U(3), U(4), U(12)$ and $U(3), U(5), U(15)$.
On the basis of your answers, make a conjecture about the relationship among $|U(r)|, |U(s)|$, and $|U(rs)|$.

ok I still don't have a clear idea on how to do this $ax=1$
$U(3)=3$

If I'm not mistaken, the order of $U(n)$ is $\varphi(n)$, which is the Euler's totient function. If $n$ is prime, then $\varphi(n) = n-1$. If $p$ is prime and $n=p^k$, then $\varphi(n) = p^{k-1}(p-1)$. Also, if $\gcd(m,n)=1$, $\varphi(mn) = \varphi(m)\varphi(n)$. Using these properties of $\varphi(n)$, you should be able to find the orders. I leave it to you to find the orders of the groups and make a conjecture about how $|U(rs)|$, $|U(r)|$ and $|U(s)|$ are related.

I hope this helps!
 
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ok I found this for u(12)
where does {1,5,7,11} come from? I see that 1+11=12 and 5+7=12
also "every element of U(12) has order of 1 or 2" where does 2 come from

also from this does it mean that
U(3)={1,2} and u(5)={1,4}
 

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