3 questions on power and energy

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The discussion revolves around three questions related to power and energy in physics. The first question compares the kinetic energies and velocities of a light pingpong ball and a heavier baseball bat when both reach the same maximum height. The second question examines the speed of a rollercoaster at the bottom of a hill, questioning whether it makes sense given its height. The third question involves comparing the performance of a fast sports car to a slower, fuel-efficient car using the concept of power.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of mass on kinetic energy and velocity in the first question, with some suggesting a need to rethink assumptions about force and velocity. In the second question, there is exploration of whether the given speed makes sense in the context of energy conservation and potential friction losses. The third question prompts consideration of the relationship between power and work, though some participants express uncertainty about how to approach it.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning initial assumptions and exploring different interpretations of the problems. Some guidance has been offered regarding the second question's context, particularly about friction and energy conservation, while the first question has prompted further inquiry into the relationship between mass and velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the homework questions, including the need for calculations and justifications based on physical principles. There is a recognition of potential missing information regarding the rollercoaster's speed and the effects of friction.

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Homework Statement


1. a light pingpong ball and a heavier baseball bat are thrown vertically upwards. compare their initial kinetic energies and initial velocities if both balls reach the same maximum height.

2. a rollercoaster is designed with its first hill of height 75m. at the bottom of the hill the velocity is 33m/s. does the speed at the bottom make sense? explain using a calculation if needed

3. compare the performance of a fast sports car (porsche) to a slower fuel efficient toyota corolla using the concept of power.

Homework Equations


ek=1/2mv^2
eg=mgh
p=w/t

The Attempt at a Solution


1. i think the heavier one will have a greater kinetic energy and a higher velocity

2. i think it doesn't make sense because mgh=1/2mv^2
9.81×75=0.5(33^2)
735.75=544.5
since theyre not equal it wouldn't make sense

3. i just have no idea
 
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You might want to rethink the velocity part of #1
 
phinds said:
You might want to rethink the velocity part of #1
but if they reach the same heigh, wouldn't that mean you would need more force/a greater velocity on the heavier object? if you gave the same velocity to both id think that would make the heavier one go lower than the light one
 
jinkyfishies said:
if you gave the same velocity to both id think that would make the heavier one go lower than the light one
Why? If you DROP them both they start out with the same velocity. Do you think the heavier one will travel faster?
 
jinkyfishies said:
2. a rollercoaster is designed with its first hill of height 75m. at the bottom of the hill the velocity is 33m/s. does the speed at the bottom make sense? explain using a calculation if needed
I'm not sure about this, but possibly what is intended here is that before climbing the hill the speed is 33m/s. Will that be sufficient to see the car clear the hill?

On the other hand, if it's correct as you interpreted it to be and that 33m/s is the speed after descending the hill, then having less than expected speed could easily be explained by friction losses on the track.
 
For 3, consider the formula for power and what work represents.

For 2, you are right. The only minor justification would be friction, but even then a well-designed roller coaster would not have that much friction.
 

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