3 variables 3 equations (2 linear 1 quadratic)

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The problem involves finding three numbers x, y, and z that satisfy two linear equations and one quadratic equation. The equations are: 9x - 6y - 10z = 1, -6x + 4y + 7z = 0, and x² + y² + z² = 9.

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  • Participants discuss expressing two unknowns in terms of the third from the linear equations and substituting into the quadratic equation. There is confusion about the necessity of the quadratic equation given that a solution for z is identified as 2.

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Some participants have confirmed that z = 2 is consistent with the equations, while others express uncertainty about the role of the quadratic equation in the solution process. There is an ongoing exploration of how to proceed with the remaining variables x and y.

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Homework Statement


Find three numbers x,y,z satisfying the following equations:
9x-6y-10z=1
-6x+4y+7z=0
x2+y2+z2=9


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The book suggests that the best approach is to express 2 unknowns in terms of the third unknown from the first 2 linear equations and, by substituting these expressions in the last equation, obtain a quadratic equation for the third unknown.
So i try this:
4(9x-6y-10z=1)= 36x-24y-40z=4
6(-6x+4y+7z=0)= -36x+24y+42z=0
(36x-24y-40z=4) + (-36x+24y+42z=0)= 2z=4
z=2
I figure I've gone wrong somewhere because this is not the strategy outlined in the book (it's also not the correct answer for z according to the book)
 
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Appleton said:

Homework Statement


Find three numbers x,y,z satisfying the following equations:
9x-6y-10z=1
-6x+4y+7z=0
x2+y2+z2=9


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The book suggests that the best approach is to express 2 unknowns in terms of the third unknown from the first 2 linear equations and, by substituting these expressions in the last equation, obtain a quadratic equation for the third unknown.
So i try this:
4(9x-6y-10z=1)= 36x-24y-40z=4
6(-6x+4y+7z=0)= -36x+24y+42z=0
(36x-24y-40z=4) + (-36x+24y+42z=0)= 2z=4
z=2
I figure I've gone wrong somewhere because this is not the strategy outlined in the book (it's also not the correct answer for z according to the book)

If you have stated the problem correctly, you are right: z = 2, no matter what the book says. In fact, there are two solutions; they both have z = 2 but have different x,y values.
 
Thanks for your reply. On further inspection I realize that the book does in fact say that z is equal to 2. However this still leaves me a bit confused about the purpose of the quadratic equation since it seems it is superfluous to the requirements for providing a solution.

The problem is question 1A, page 44 (in the pdf digital copy. Or 22 in the hard copy)
of this book:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/39412845/Mathematics-and-Plausible-Reasoning-Vol1-Induction-and-Analogy-in-Mathematics-Polya-1954
 
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Appleton said:
Thanks for your reply. On further inspection I realize that the book does in fact say that z is equal to 2. However this still leaves me a bit confused about the purpose of the quadratic equation since it seems it is superfluous to the requirements for providing a solution.

The problem is question 1A, page 44 (in the pdf digital copy. Or 22 in the hard copy)
of this book:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/39412845/Mathematics-and-Plausible-Reasoning-Vol1-Induction-and-Analogy-in-Mathematics-Polya-1954

If you know z = 2 you can put this into the first and third equations (for example), to get two equations in the two unknowns x and y. One of the equations is linear, so that helps.
 
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Thanks for the help I'll try that.
 

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