How Do You Solve Complex Number Equations in Quadratics and Exponentials?

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The discussion revolves around solving complex number equations within the context of quadratic and exponential functions. Participants explore various problems involving complex roots, modulus, and distinct roots of complex numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to understand the implications of complex roots in quadratic equations and the relationship between complex numbers and their modulus. Questions arise regarding the nature of arguments in exponential forms and how to identify distinct roots in sets of complex numbers.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problems. Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the questions, while others are clarifying concepts related to complex numbers and their properties.

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Some participants express confusion over the requirements of the problems, particularly regarding assumptions about real and imaginary components in equations. There are indications of missing information or unclear definitions that are being addressed through dialogue.

  • #31
PeroK said:
You don't have to assume ##b = 0##. You should be able to show that ##b = 0## and ##a \ge 0##.
Showing b=0 is done on the very first part where there is no imaginary number on the right is it?
 
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  • #32
jisbon said:
Showing b=0 is done on the very first part where there is no imaginary number on the right is it?

Yes.
 
  • #33
PeroK said:
Yes.
So since I managed to show, I can just sub in:
a+bi+7(a−bi)=∣(a+4)+bi∣
where b =0,
4/7 + 7(4/7) = (4/7) +4
which is true.
Hence z = 4/7 + 0i?
 
  • #34
jisbon said:
So since I managed to show, I can just sub in:
a+bi+7(a−bi)=∣(a+4)+bi∣
where b =0,
4/7 + 7(4/7) = (4/7) +4
which is true.
Hence z = 4/7 + 0i?

What I would have done is noted that ##|z + 4| = c##, where ##c \ge 0##.

That shows that ##b = 0## and ##a \ge 0## (do the algebra). You don't have to guess or assume that ##b = 0##.

Also, a little trick, as ##a \ge 0##, we have ##|z + 4| = |a + 4| = a + 4##

And that avoids having to square the equation.
 
  • #35
PeroK said:
What I would have done is noted that ##|z + 4| = c##, where ##c \ge 0##.

That shows that ##b = 0## and ##a \ge 0##. You don't have to guess or assume that ##b = 0##.

Also, a little trick, as ##a \ge 0##, we have ##|z + 4| = |a + 4| = a + 4##

And that avoids having to square the equation.
Oh okay. So by proving b=0, we can now assume z = 4/7 +0i right?
Also for the next question, I've edited to include my initial answers. Do you think they are correct? Thanks.
 
  • #36
jisbon said:
Oh okay. So by proving b=0, we can now assume z = 4/7 +0i right?
Also for the next question, I've edited to include my initial answers. Do you think they are correct? Thanks.

I think I'd post the remaining questions in a new thread.
 
  • #37
PeroK said:
I think I'd post the remaining questions in a new thread.
I could post them. Oh and for the previous question, it will be z=4/7+0i right? Thanks
 
  • #38
jisbon said:
I could post them. Oh and for the previous question, it will be z=4/7+0i right? Thanks

You should be able to check that for yourself. Once you know that ##z## is real, it's a fairly simple question.
 
  • #39
  • #40
jisbon said:
Homework Statement: NIL
Homework Equations: NIL

Hello all!
Thanks for helping me out so far :) Really appreciate it.
I don't seem to understand some of the questions presented to me, so if anyone has an idea on how to start the questions, please do render your assistance :)
7)
Let
##\sum_{k=0}^9 x^k = 0##
Find smallest positive argument. Same thing as previous question, but I guess I can expand to
z+z2+z3+...+z9=0z+z2+z3+...+z9=0
##z=re^iθ##
##rei^θ+re^2iθ+re^3iθ+...##
What do I do to proceed on?
Cheers
This would be easier if you ask only 1 (or 2 max, if they are pretty simple) questions at a time.
On your summation, you start with xk then switch to xk when you expand it out.
Also in the sum, it's k = 0 to 9, so what happened to the zero power? ## z^0 = 1 ##
If ##z=re^{iθ}## then shouldn't ## z^2 = (re^{iθ})^2 = r^2e^{i2θ}##

Latex tip: use curly braces { } to put multiple characters in the exponent.
 

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