7% glacial acetic acid in 40% (v/v) methanol

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The discussion revolves around the preparation of a 7% glacial acetic acid solution in 40% (v/v) methanol, addressing the ambiguity in the concentration definitions and the method of preparation. It includes aspects of solution composition and the implications of volume contraction.

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  • Participants question whether the 7% concentration refers to w/w%, w/v%, or v/v%.
  • One participant expresses confusion about how to prepare the solution and requests clarification.
  • Another participant suggests a method involving mixing specific volumes of acetic acid and methanol, while also considering the need to account for volume contraction.
  • There is a proposal to start with 40 mL of methanol, add water to achieve the desired concentration, and then add glacial acetic acid, with a specific volume adjustment suggested.
  • One participant acknowledges the ambiguity of the original document linked and appreciates the need for careful consideration in the preparation process.

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Participants express differing views on the correct method for preparing the solution, indicating that multiple competing approaches exist. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best preparation method.

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The discussion highlights the ambiguity in the definitions of concentration types and the potential impact of volume contraction on the final solution composition.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in chemistry or laboratory work, particularly those needing to prepare solutions with specific concentrations and those seeking clarification on concentration definitions.

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How do I make 7% glacial acetic acid in 40% (v/v) methanol?
 
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7% w/w, 7% w/v or 7% v/v?

Please note you should show your attempts at solving the question to receive help. This is a forum policy.
 
I am totally confused, I don't understand how to solve it. :(
Please see also: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/etc/medialib/docs/Sigma/Datasheet/b2025dat.Par.0001.File.tmp/b2025dat.pdf

I need to make this solution. Also I need to make 10% acetic acid in 25% (v/v) methanol.
 
7% in 40%v/v is ambiguous, no wonder you are confused.

Do you at least know definitions of w/w%, v/v% and w/v%?
 
I think I know the definition for those.
Do you think I have to make 7 ml(acetic acid) + 40 ml(methanol) and add water up to 100 ml?

Or Do I have to make 7% acetic acid (7ml in 100ml of water) and then add it to 40% methanol? If I do the 2nd way, how much of acetic acid I need to add to Methanol?

Or Is these are not right & I have to prepare it in a different way?
 
First approach sounds more reasonable, although I would go slightly different way - I would start with 40 mL of methanol, add 60 mL of water (that would give 40%v/v methanol), then add 7.3 mL of glacial acetic acid (0.3 mL more to account for the fact final volume would be around 104 mL, as volume of the methanol solution would be around 97 mL due to the volume contraction). At least that's how I understand the composition of the solution. But as I wrote earlier, document you have linked to is ambiguous, so could be I am wrong.
 
I believe what you suggested is more appropriate for this context.

Thanks a lot.

At first, I thought I would just write the question and get the answer. But you made me think. I appreciate your policy. Thanks again.
I am sure I will have a lot more questions to ask. :)
 
dr.vj said:
I am sure I will have a lot more questions to ask.

Be prepared for more thinking then.
 

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