Does e^{iS} Equal Zero When S Approaches Infinity in Feynman Path Integrals?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of the expression e^{iS} as S approaches infinity within the context of Feynman Path Integrals. It is established that e^{iS} does not equal zero when S approaches infinity, as the limit oscillates between -1 and 1 without settling. The discontinuity of the map x → e^{ix} at infinity is highlighted, indicating that a continuous extension cannot be applied. The conversation also touches on the practical implications of defining limits in quantum mechanics, particularly in graduate-level physics.

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Hello there,

please tell me whether e^{iS} = 0 when S = +\infty

S is the action of a particle = \int L dt
e.g. when the particle goes to infinity and comes back, kinetic energy blows up,
then S blows up.
 
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kakarukeys said:
Hello there,

please tell me whether e^{iS} = 0 when S = +\infty
It does'nt:
e^{ix}=\cos{x}+i\sin{x}
\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}e^{ix}=\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\cos{x}+i\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\sin{x}
But niether the real nor imaginary parts of the limit exist; as x approaches infinity they oscilate between -1 and 1.
 
That's what my math teacher told me,
but my physics teacher told me entirely different thing.
 
I would suspect both your math teacher and physics teacher are right!

The map x → e^(ix) is, indeed, discontinuous at +∞, and thus one cannot continuously extend this map to have a value at +∞. (continuous extension is the process that is generally used to justify statements like arctan +∞ = π / 2 or x/x = 1).


However...


As is often the case, there is probably some related concept that is practical to use here, and whether he knows it or not, it's what your physics professor meant.
 
Do you mean, for computation purpose, we can define the limit to be zero
it can't be proven?
 
:eek:
this is no college level!
Feymann Path Integral!
 
kakarukeys said:
:eek:
this is no college level!
Feymann Path Integral!


College=university. Don't get freaked out.
 
Feynmann Path Integral is at graduate level :smile:
 

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