A<b<c and, f is bounded on [a,b]

  • Thread starter Thread starter phydis
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Bounded
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that a function \( f \) is bounded on the interval \([a,c]\) given that it is bounded on the subintervals \([a,b]\) and \([b,c]\). The participants are examining the implications of the definitions of boundedness and the relationships between the intervals.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definitions of boundedness and question whether the proof correctly establishes that \( f \) is bounded on \([a,c]\). There is a focus on the implications of the inequalities used in the proof and the correct interpretation of the intervals involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on clarifying the notation and definitions used in the proof. There is an ongoing examination of the language and logic employed in the statements made, with suggestions for improving clarity and precision.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the potential confusion arising from the use of the variable \( x \) to represent different values in overlapping intervals, as well as the implications of the definitions of boundedness in the context of the proof.

phydis
Messages
28
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


a<b<c and, f is bounded on [a,b] and f is bounded on [b,c] prove that f is bounded on [a,c]

The Attempt at a Solution


there exist M1≥0 s.t. for all x ε [a,b] |f(x)|≤M1
there exist M2≥0 s.t. for all x ε [b,c] |f(x)|≤M2

for x ε [a,b] and x ε [b,c]
Let M>0, and let M>M1 and M>M2
therefore
|f(x)|≤M1<M --> |f(x)|<M and |f(x)|≤M2<M --> |f(x)|<M
∴ there exist M>0 s.t. |f(x)|<M *
so f is bounded on [a,c]

is this proof correct? definition says f is bounded on [a,c] if M≥0 s.t. for all x ε [a,c] |f(x)|≤M
but what I have proven is, f is bounded on [a,c] since M>0 s.t. for all x ε [a,c] |f(x)|<M :rolleyes:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
phydis said:

Homework Statement


a<b<c and, f is bounded on [a,b] and f is bounded on [b,c] prove that f is bounded on [a,c]

The Attempt at a Solution


there exist M1≥0 s.t. for all x ε [a,b] |f(x)|≤M1
there exist M2≥0 s.t. for all x ε [b,c] |f(x)|≤M2

for x ε [a,b] and x ε [b,c]
Let M>0, and let M>M1 and M>M2
therefore
|f(x)|≤M1<M --> |f(x)|<M and |f(x)|≤M2<M --> |f(x)|<M
∴ there exist M>0 s.t. |f(x)|<M *
so f is bounded on [a,c]

is this proof correct? definition says f is bounded on [a,c] if M≥0 s.t. for all x ε [a,c] |f(x)|≤M
but what I have proven is, f is bounded on [a,c] since M>0 s.t. for all x ε [a,c] |f(x)|<M :rolleyes:
Uh...if ##x\in[a,b]## and ##x\in[b,c]##, then ##x=b##. I think you meant ##x\in[a,c]##. :confused:
 
Mandelbroth said:
Uh...if ##x\in[a,b]## and ##x\in[b,c]##, then ##x=b##. I think you meant ##x\in[a,c]##. :confused:

Nope, I meant some ##x\inℝ## lies on [a,b] and some ##x\inℝ## lies on [b,c]
 
phydis said:
Nope, I meant some ##x\inℝ## lies on [a,b] and some ##x\inℝ## lies on [b,c]
That's not a good way to put it. It's confusing. Try using ##x_1## and ##x_2##.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
What you should say is "if [itex]x\in [a, c][/itex] then either [itex]x\in [a, b][/itex] or [itex]x\in [b, c][/itex]". (You shouldn't use "x" to mean two different numbers.)

Also where you say "Let M>0, and let M>M1 and M>M2" it looks as if you were "letting" M be three different numbers. Better would be "Let M> max(M1, M2)". Of course, since M1 and M2 are both positive, it follows that M> 0.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person

Similar threads

Replies
15
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K