A compact car, mass of 725 kg, is moving at 100 km.hr.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the momentum of a compact car with a mass of 725 kg moving at a speed of 100 km/hr, and determining the velocity at which a larger car with a mass of 2175 kg would have the same momentum. Participants are exploring unit conversion and the relationship between mass, velocity, and momentum.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate momentum but is uncertain about converting units from km/hr to m/s. Some participants suggest using conversion factors to facilitate this process. There is also discussion about how to set up the equation for the larger car's momentum and whether the calculated values seem reasonable.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one providing a detailed method for unit conversion. There is a mix of attempts to calculate momentum and questions about the validity of the results. Some participants express doubt about their answers, while others offer reassurance regarding the calculations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of unit conversion and the implications of mass differences on momentum calculations. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion in the mathematical reasoning presented.

kath102245
A compact car, mass of 725 kg, is moving at 100 km.hr. What is its momentum? At what velocity is the momentum of a larger car, mass 2175 kg, equal to that of the smaller car?


this is what i have so far:
p=725(100 km/hr)

but i don't kno how to change km/hr into m/sec. And i don't know how to do the second part of the question.

Please help!
Kat
 
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Hi kath102245,

Try using a "conversion factor," like this one:

1 kilometer
--------------
1000 meters

Notice that the quantities on the top and bottom are equal lengths -- they're different units, of course, but they represent exactly the same length. When you have the same thing on the top and bottom of a fraction, that fraction is equal to one. Therefore, this fraction is just one. When you multiply something by one, you do not change it, of course, so you can use such a conversion factor anywhere that it is convenient.

Let's make use of two conversion factors:
Code:
 1 kilometer           1 hour
-------------  and  --------------
 1000 meters         3600 seconds

Now take your initial quantity (100 km/hr), and multiply it by these conversion factors as necessary to get the units you want. You want the result in meters per second. Start by attacking the "hours" with the second conversion factor, like this:
Code:
  100 kilometers        1 hour
 ---------------- * --------------
      1 hour         3600 seconds
Note that there's some cool stuff happening here: since "hours" is on the top and bottom, it cancels. You're left with just kilometers per second.

Now you can attack the "kilometers" the same way:
Code:
  100 kilometers        1 hour        1000 meters
 ---------------- * -------------- * -------------
      1 hour         3600 seconds     1 kilometer

Now the hours cancel, and so do the kilometers. You're left with meters on top, and seconds on bottom. To get the answer, just multiply the fractions:
Code:
     100 * 1 * 1000 meters     100,000 meters
  = ----------------------- = ---------------- = about 27.77 m/s
     1 * 3600 * 1 seconds      3,600 seconds

If you understand this, we'll go ahead and work on the next part of the problem.

- Warren
 
so then would the momentum be 20,133.25kgm/s? Then for the second part of the question...i'm thinking it would be something like this...

20133.25=2175V

20133.25/2175=V
V=9.256m/s

This doesn't seem right...
 
Originally posted by kath102245
so then would the momentum be 20,133.25kgm/s? Then for the second part of the question...i'm thinking it would be something like this...

20133.25=2175V

20133.25/2175=V
V=9.256m/s

This doesn't seem right...
Why doesn't that seem right? The small car is roughly three times less massive than the big one, and thus must have roughly three times the velocity to have the same momentum.

I believe your answer is correct!

- Warren
 
Thanks for your help Warren!
 
Warren gave you a conversion factor for the specific problem you were trying to calculate although if you find yourself in another situation like this one you have an easier way that applies to most Physics Equations (Note : this is mathematical but it does apply to physics.)

3a ^3 4
----- x -----
1 2ba

Expand the Exponents


3aaa 4
------ x -----
1 2ba


The "a" in the denomenator of the second fraction in the problem will cancel out one of the three "a's" in the numerator of the first fraction. Giving the Equation this apperance.


3aa 4
------ x -----
1 2b



Now you have eliminated 2 potential confusion areas. The Equation will turn out to equal.


3aa 4 12aa
------ x ----- = ------
1 2b 2b


You multiply the 2 top numbers and add the "a's" left, (variables hold the place of a number because everyone knows you cannot multiply a letter) coming out to 12aa. Then 1 being the identity element identifies the number being muultiplyed by it as itself, comin gout to 2b giving you the answer 12aa/2b. Now with physics if you are doing the simple equation F = m(a) you have mass = X kg and a = X m/s so you need to combine those 2 into one for the Force. The numbers are multiplyed so the units of measurment are as well. coming out like kg x m/s.

If Warrens didn't help here was a quick lesson a little rough around the edges but that good ok hopefully it helped with your homework and if not maybe the Math part will help for Algebra.
 

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