A couple of questions about Higgs Boson

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The discussion revolves around questions related to the Higgs Boson (HB), its properties, detection challenges, and its relationship with the Higgs field. Participants explore theoretical aspects, implications of the Higgs field, and the mechanics of particle interactions in high-energy collisions.

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  • David questions why the heavy Higgs Boson is difficult to detect or produce despite its presence in the universe.
  • Some participants suggest that the difficulty arises from the high energy required for production and the short-lived nature of the Higgs Boson, along with the challenge of distinguishing its decay products from other processes.
  • There is a discussion about the Higgs field permeating the universe and the nature of the Higgs Boson as an excitation of that field.
  • One participant notes that heavier particles generally decay faster, although there are exceptions, and this is relevant to understanding the Higgs Boson's properties.
  • A question is raised about why the Higgs field does not give mass to photons, leading to a response that it couples to certain particles while others remain massless due to symmetry requirements.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the portrayal of the Higgs Boson in scientific literature, questioning the analogy of it filling space and its effects on acceleration.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the properties and implications of the Higgs Boson and the Higgs field, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is not fully resolved.

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Some statements rely on assumptions about particle decay and the nature of mass in relation to the Higgs field, which may not be universally accepted or fully explained in the discussion.

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Hi all, I have a couple of noob questions regarding the Higgs Boson (HB) and it's recent "discovery"


1. if the HB is so heavy (I understood it is heavier than a proton) and permeates the universe, why is it so difficult to detect it or produce it ?

2. Why do we have to collide protons in order to "produce" a HB ? I understood it was flowing through the universe, not part of existing matter ... so how can it be uncovered by breaking apart existing matter ?


Many thanks for your help,

David
 
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if the HB is so heavy (I understood it is heavier than a proton) and permeates the universe, why is it so difficult to detect it or produce it ?
That's why. Because it's so heavy, it takes a high energy collision to produce it. It's difficult to detect because (a) it's very short-lived, and (b) the things it decays into can be easily produced in other ways, so seeing them is no guarantee they came from a Higgs.

I understood it was flowing through the universe, not part of existing matter ... so how can it be uncovered by breaking apart existing matter ?
The Higgs field permeates the universe. The Higgs boson is an excitation of that field, which is what CERN thinks it's found. The Higgs field manifests its existence through the nonzero masses of the elementary particles, but the validation of the theory requires we must also produce the Higgs boson and measure its properties.
 
davidoux2020 said:
1. if the HB is so heavy (I understood it is heavier than a proton) and permeates the universe, why is it so difficult to detect it or produce it ?
I'd just like to add to the Bill_K's answer, that generally the heavier the particle is, the faster it decays. It's not strictly linear dependence and there are some exceptions when particle is heavy but decays slowly (neutron) or doesn't decay at all (proton) because they have nothing (or almost nothing) to decay into. But you expect that heavy particle will decay faster, unless you find some reason to the contrary.
 
If the Higgs field permeates all of space and gives mass to all particles...why doesn't it give mass to photons? What makes them 'immune' to the Higgs field?
 
It gives mass to all particles it couples to. If you work out the electroweak symmetry breaking mechanism, one particle has to stay massless, as one U(1) symmetry has to remain.
Gluons are massless, too, by the way.
 
Thanks for clearing that up ' its the field that fills space..' so many even quite scientific articles have said its the Higgs bosons that fill space, and that it creates an effect like moving through treacle etc - suely its only accelaration that is affected?
 
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