A Different Way to Achieve Electron Velocity Modulation in a Klystron

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The discussion centers around the concept of achieving electron velocity modulation in a klystron using a toroid coil positioned outside the discharge tube. Participants explore the implications of this setup on the electric field distribution and its effects on electron behavior within the tube.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the toroid coil is outside the discharge tube yet influences the electrons inside.
  • Another participant suggests that the field distribution of the toroid is comparable to that of a cavity resonator, referencing a rhumbatron.
  • A participant expresses a belief that the electric field in the proposed system would be significantly lower than that across the gap in a conventional toroidal cavity.
  • Concerns are raised about the impedance of the toroidal core, suggesting it would be low due to the presence of wires parallel to the electron beam, which could affect the electric field along the surface of the wire.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the electric field distribution and its implications, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of the toroid's influence on the electric field or the specific conditions under which the proposed system operates.

Narayanan KR
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Both Reflex Klystrons and Two cavity Klystrons use electric field between parallel plates to accelerate or decelerate (i.e. velocity modulate) the electrons emitted from Cathode. Question is, will there be a same effect of velocity modulation, if I place a toroidal core (ferrite or air core) with coil wound around it and feed by a RF source ? because the time varying magnetic fields in the toroidal coil produces time varying Electric Fields parallel to the electron motion inside the Tube.
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Please Notice That the Toroid Coil is Outside the Discharge Tube and yet able to influence electrons moving inside the Tube.
 
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I think it is OK. I think the field distribution of a toroid is the same as the cavity resonator you show (rhumbatron as it was called).
 
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tech99 said:
I think it is OK. I think the field distribution of a toroid is the same as the cavity resonator you show (rhumbatron as it was called).
Thank You, now I shall Proceed with my Experiment.
 
tech99 said:
I think the field distribution of a toroid is the same as the cavity resonator you show (rhumbatron as it was called).
I have a feeling that the E field in the proposed system would be a lot lower than across the gap in a normal toroidal cavity. The Impedance of the toroidal core where the electrons pass through would be low because there are wires (the turns of the coil) parallel to the direction of the electron beam. E field along the surface of a wire is about zero.
 

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