A fermion oscillator interacted with a boson oscillator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the theoretical modeling of a fermion oscillator interacting with a boson oscillator, particularly in the context of dissipative systems. Participants explore the mathematical formulations and potential interaction forms between these two types of oscillators.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the Hamiltonian H=p^2/m+x^2 can describe both boson and fermion particles, questioning how to represent fermion properties in their interaction with bosons.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the emergence of a fermion oscillator from a boson oscillator, asking for clarification.
  • A participant seeks to build a theoretical model for a fermion interacting with a boson in a dissipative system but is unsure how to proceed.
  • One participant explains that the configuration space of the fermion oscillator requires two real anticommuting dynamical variables and provides an action and Hamiltonian for such an oscillator.
  • Another participant suggests the Jaynes-Cummings model as a simple approach for the interaction of a bosonic photon mode with a fermionic two-level system, indicating it might serve as a starting point.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the information but continues to seek the exact form of the interaction between bosons and fermions.
  • One participant mentions a Hamiltonian that incorporates the spin of the fermion and expresses difficulty in constructing the interaction term.
  • Another participant proposes coupling the oscillators by potential and provides a specific Hamiltonian form for this interaction.
  • A participant expresses interest in a more complex model involving bosons interacting with a boson bath and fermions with a fermion bath, inquiring about the possibility of building a coupled interaction term with potential.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact form of the interaction between fermion and boson oscillators. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various mathematical forms and models but do not resolve the underlying assumptions or dependencies on specific definitions, leaving some aspects of the discussion open-ended.

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It is known to all that the Hamiltonin H=p^2/m+x^2 can describe the boson and fermion particle, but how can embody the fermion properties when a fermion oscillator interacted with a boson oscillator? what is their interaction form?
 
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Sorry, I do not see how a fermion oscillator should emerge from the boson oscillator. Can you please be a bit more specific?
 
Thank you for your reply, I just want to build a theoretical model for a fermion interacted with a boson in dissipative system. But I don't know how to build it.
 
You should know that the configuration space of the fermion oscillator is R^{2}_{a}. That is, you need two real anticommuting dynamical variables to describe the fermion oscillator. The action for such oscillator is given by
S = (i/2)\int dt (X_{1}\dot{X}_{1} + X_{2}\dot{X}_{2} + X_{1}X_{2}-X_{2}X_{1})
Form this, you find the Hamiltonian;
H = -iX_{1}X_{2}
 
That is all a bit vague and allows for a lot of approaches.

One of the simplest models is the Jaynes-Cummings model which is used for the interaction of a single bosonic photon mode (which is of course dissipative e.g. in the presence of a cavity) with a single fermionic two-level system (atom, quantum dot or whatever).

I do not know whether this is what you are looking for, but it might provide a starting point to find similar models.
 
Thank you for the reply. It's a good information and advice for me. I will take care of it. I still want to know what the exact form about the interaction of boson and fermion or how to build it?
 
I know that the Hamiltonin have the form:H=1/2(p^2+q^2)-i*x(1)*x(2) when taken into accout the spin of fermion. But I didn't have the ability to build the interaction team. Welcome to give me a advice. x(i) is the odd Grassmann number.
 
Couple them by potential;
H=(1/2)\left(\dot{q}^{2}+[V'(q)]^{2}\right) -iV''(q)X_{1}X_{2}
 
It's a valueable information. I appreciate it. Let me consider more complicated model, just like a boson interacted with its respective boson bath and a fermion interacted with fermion bath. Could I build the coupled team with potential?
 

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