A few limit point compactness questions

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The discussion revolves around limit point compactness in topological spaces, specifically examining properties related to continuous functions, closed subsets, and subspaces of Hausdorff spaces.

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  • Participants explore whether the image of a continuous function from a limit point compact space is also limit point compact, questioning the necessity of certain conditions like metrizability.
  • There is a discussion on whether closed subsets of limit point compact spaces retain this property, with examples provided to illustrate the point.
  • Participants consider the implications of being a subspace of a Hausdorff space and whether such subspaces are necessarily closed.

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The conversation includes various perspectives on the posed questions, with some participants providing examples and others seeking clarification on terminology and concepts. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Participants reference specific topological spaces and properties, including the indiscrete topology and the nature of the first uncountable limit ordinal, ω1. There is also mention of a specific textbook, Munkres, which may influence the context of the discussion.

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Let X be limit point compact (i.e. any infinite subset of X has a limit point).

(a) if f : X --> Y is continuous, does it follow that f(X) is limit point compact?
(b) if A is a closed subset of X, does it follow that A is limit point compact?
(c) if X is a subspace of the Hausdorff space Z, does it follow that X is closed in Z?

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(a) well, if both X and Y are metrizable, this holds for sure, since limit point compactness of X implies compactness of X, which implies compactness of f(X), which then implies limit point compactness of f(X). otherwise, I don't see why this should hold.

(b) no, since for example [0, 1] is a closed subset of R in the lower limit topology, and it is not limit point compact

(c) well, again, if X is metrizable, X is compact, and hence closed in Z, since Z is Hausdorff. otherwise, I don't have an idea why it would hold.

any suggestions?
 
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for a) take {0,1} with the indiscrete topology. Then
[tex]p_2:\{0,1\}\times\mathbb{Z}\rightarrow \mathbb{Z}[/tex]
should do the job.

b) Correct. The example of above should do the job to.

c) Correct me if I'm wrong, but [tex][0,\omega_1 [[/tex] is a non-closed countably compact (hence limit point compact) subset of the Hausdorff space [tex][0,\omega_1][/tex].
 
micromass said:
for a) take {0,1} with the indiscrete topology. Then
[tex]p_2:\{0,1\}\times\mathbb{Z}\rightarrow \mathbb{Z}[/tex]
should do the job.

b) Correct. The example of above should do the job to.

c) Correct me if I'm wrong, but [tex][0,\omega_1 [[/tex] is a non-closed countably compact (hence limit point compact) subset of the Hausdorff space [tex][0,\omega_1][/tex].

micromass, thanks for the reply.

For c) does [0, ω1[ represent [0, ω1>? Which space are your referring to? i.e. what exactly does ω1 stand for, any real number?
 
[tex]\omega_1[/tex] is the first uncountable limit ordinal. I believe it is called [tex]\Omega[/tex] in Munkres (this exercise is from Munkres, isn't it).

The space [tex][0,\omega_1[[/tex] is the space [tex]S_{\Omega}[/tex] of Munkres (although I'm not hundred percent sure of this).
 

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