A man in an elevator at the forces affecting him

In summary, the elevator exerts a force of 735.75 N on the 75 kg man when it is at rest, 9.81 N when the elevator is moving upward with a uniform acceleration of 2.0 m/s^2, and 9.81 - 2.0 N when the elevator is moving downward with a uniform acceleration of 2.0 m/s^2.
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Homework Statement


A 75kg man stands in an elevator. What will be the force the elevator exerts on him when:
a) the elevator is at rest
b) the elevator is moving upward with a uniform acceleration of 2.0m/s^2
c) the elevator is moving downward with a uniform acceleration of 2.0m/s^2.

Homework Equations


Fg = mg
FNet = m(a)

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the following answers that matched the ones on my worksheet:
a) = 735.75 N [up]
The other two I got from just randomly pluging and adding/subtracting the acceleration of gravity with the uniform acceleration of the elevator.
However, I don't understand what I did and WHY this is the answer. I am the type that doesn't just take the answer as correct from getting it right, but until it makes sense to me..

b) F = (75)(9.81 + 2.0)
c) F = (75)(9.81 - 2.0)
 
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Just use Newton's Laws to know that a force corresponds to an acceleration.
As the elevator moves, a new force is exerted on the man. The direction of this force depends on the direction of motion of the elevator.
Does it make sense?
 
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No sorry it doesn't make sense. If you were to draw an FBD for b), and c), how would it look like? ;|
 
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If the elevator is going down, then the force on the man would be smaller, and vice versa for going up in an elevator.
 
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Consider it from the man's (mass m) frame of reference. When the elevator (mass M) is at rest, in the man's frame there is a normal force (N) counteracting his weight (force of gravity, mg) applied to the bottom of the elevator. Using Newton's Second Law and calling up positive,
Fnet=manet
where Fnet=N-mg. Since the elevator is at rest, anet=0.
This implies: 0=N-mg leading to: N=mg.

However, when the elevator starts to move, the man's frame is no longer at rest, but is moving with some acceleration. The man only sees the forces of his weight and the normal force of the elevator, but the reference frame is accelerating. Thus, while the man sees no net acceleration with respect to the elevator, the frame has its own acceleration, which we'll call aF.

Our equation of motion becomes:
Fnet=manet+maF
which simplifies to:
Fnet=maF
then:
N-mg=maF
N=m(aF+g)

Now, if we expand our system to look at the elevator, our system becomes locally inertial again with two forces acting on the elevator, a tension in the cable that pulls/lowers the elevator, and the force of gravity on the elevator plus the man. The man's weight is added to the elevator's, and the now-internal forces between the elevator and man are ignored.
 
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What is the force of gravity acting on a man in an elevator?

The force of gravity acting on a man in an elevator is equal to his mass multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity, which is approximately 9.8 meters per second squared.

How does the force of gravity change as the elevator moves?

The force of gravity remains constant regardless of the elevator's movement. However, the force of gravity may feel different to the man in the elevator due to the effects of acceleration and deceleration.

What other forces are acting on a man in an elevator?

In addition to the force of gravity, there are also other forces acting on a man in an elevator, such as normal force, friction, and air resistance. These forces may vary depending on the speed and direction of the elevator.

How does the man's weight change in an elevator?

The man's weight, which is a measure of the force of gravity acting on him, remains constant in the elevator. However, the man may feel heavier or lighter depending on the direction and speed of the elevator's movement.

Why does a person feel weightless in an elevator when it is in free fall?

In free fall, the elevator is accelerating downwards at the same rate as the man, resulting in a feeling of weightlessness. This is because the force of gravity is cancelled out by the normal force acting on the man in the elevator.

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