A mistake in the wolfram mathworld website

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The discussion revolves around perceived mistakes in the Wolfram MathWorld website, particularly regarding the hypergeometric function and the attribution of mathematical formulas. Participants explore the reliability of MathWorld compared to other resources like Wikipedia, and share their experiences with reporting errors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies a mistake in the hypergeometric function on MathWorld and questions how to correct it.
  • Another participant shares a general sentiment that MathWorld contains many mistakes and suggests using the editorial tool to report errors.
  • There is a discussion about the integral of 1/x, with some participants arguing about the assumptions made by WolframAlpha regarding the variable x being real or complex.
  • Participants discuss a specific mistake related to Brahmagupta's formula for the area of a quadrilateral, with conflicting views on whether the formula attributed is correct.
  • Some participants express frustration over the lack of response from MathWorld when reporting errors, contrasting it with their experiences on Wikipedia.
  • There are claims that while the mathematical content may be correct, the attribution of formulas in MathWorld is problematic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the reliability of MathWorld, with some asserting that it is less reliable than Wikipedia, while others defend its mathematical correctness despite issues with attribution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific mistakes identified.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in reporting errors to MathWorld, suggesting that their contributions may not be acknowledged or corrected. There are also unresolved questions about the accuracy of specific mathematical claims and attributions.

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I was proving a formula for the hypergoemtric function and noticed that there is a mistake in the following page look at equation (1) and compare it to equation (16) in the following page . Is there a way to correct the mistake ?
 
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I often come up with a whole lot of mistakes on that particular site.

Look at the leftmost edge of the page and you'll see a tool to send message to the editorial board. Quote the line you feel is incorrect, then send them that.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
I was proving a formula for the hypergoemtric function and noticed that there is a mistake in the following page look at equation (1) and compare it to equation (16) in the following page . Is there a way to correct the mistake ?

Hi Zaid, :)

Both of your links refer to the same page. :)
 
Sudharaka said:
Hi Zaid, :)

Both of your links refer to the same page. :)

Oops , sorry for that , I edited it.
 
topsquark said:
Hey, WolframAlpha still thinks that the integral of 1/x is log(x).

-Dan

What's wrong with that? ;)

Actually W|A gives $\log(x) + \color{gray}{\text{constant}}$.
And isn't that true for all $x>0$? It's not as if W|A gives a domain.
Isn't it also true for all $x \in \mathbb C^*$?
Anyway, even in the real numbers it is properly:
\begin{cases}\ln x + C_1 & \text{if } x>0 \\ \ln(-x) + C_2 & \text{if } x<0 \end{cases}

I think that W|A prefers complex numbers, or otherwise would probably still not give such a convoluted answer. :rolleyes:
 
You have to somehow tell Wolfram Alpha that $x$ is a real variable. Otherwise it will assume that $x$ is a complex variable. And if $x$ is a complex variable, $\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{x} \ dz = \log(x) + C$ is a true statement.
 
Random Variable said:
You have to somehow tell Wolfram Alpha that $x$ is a real variable. Otherwise it will assume that $x$ is a complex variable. And if $x$ is a complex variable, $\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{x} \ dz = \log(x) + C$ is a true statement.
Good point. Not to hijack the thread but can you quickly tell me how you would tell Wolfram x is real?

-Dan
 
For whatever reason, I am unable to link directly to the Wolfram Alpha output.

But the following command seems to return nonsense.

assuming[Element[x, Reals] , int [1/x,x]]
 
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mathbalarka said:
I often come up with a whole lot of mistakes on that particular site.

Look at the leftmost edge of the page and you'll see a tool to send message to the editorial board. Quote the line you feel is incorrect, then send them that.
Yeah, right. An awful lot of mistakes. I once tried that send message and sent the error and correction but no one looked at it, and remains incorrect today as well, and so I think its useless. In fact, I think Wikipedia is less error-prone than Mathworld.
 
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Sawarnik said:
Yeah, right. An awful lot of mistakes. I once tried that send message and sent the error and correction but no one looked at it, and remains incorrect today as well, and so I think its useless. In fact, I think Wikipedia is less error-prone than Mathworld.

Which mistake?
 
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I like Serena said:
So where is the mistake in that article?

"and Brahmagupta's formula for the area of a quadrilateral:"

Is the formula after that Brahmagupta's!
 
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Hmm, so the math is perfectly correct and as such MathWorld is reliable.
The problem is that the credits given are not correct in that article.
Just now, I have sent a contribution to MathWorld with the suggestion to correct this.
We'll see.
 
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IlikeSerena said:
Hmm, so the math is perfectly correct and as such MathWorld is reliable.

At least, more than wikipedia in any case.
 
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mathbalarka said:
At least, more than wikipedia in any case.

I'll bite.
Where is the mistake in wikipedia?
 
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Where is the mistake in wikipedia?

Somehow, I knew you'd say that. There have been many changes in wiki since I saw them, so I will show you only the ones I can find.

First, I remember wiki giving a terribly false estimate for the totient sum

$$\sum_{n\leq x} \frac1{\varphi(n)}$$

Which I don't remember what it was and they corrected it afterwards, as I see it.

Second is something on tetration, I haven't seen whether it is still there but I can't rember it either.

The last is Von Mangoldt. It's fresh as new and you can see all the craps there if you open the page up.
 
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I like Serena said:
Hmm, so the math is perfectly correct and as such MathWorld is reliable.
The problem is that the credits given are not correct in that article.
Just now, I have sent a contribution to MathWorld with the suggestion to correct this.
We'll see.

No, the formula named is wrong, which is problematic.
And I had already sent a message to them, but there has been no corrections!

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mathbalarka said:
At least, more than wikipedia in any case.

But you can correct errors in Wiki with no prob. The MathWorld team however never listens to any suggestion and the mistake remain mistakes.

But form my experience Wiki is not at all as bad as people say.
 

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