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The discussion centers around identifying and correcting mistakes in mathematical content on a specific website, particularly regarding hypergeometric functions and the integral of 1/x. A user points out discrepancies between equations on the site and expresses frustration over the frequency of errors. Another participant suggests using the site's editorial tool to report mistakes, but there are doubts about the responsiveness of the editorial team, with some claiming that errors remain unaddressed for long periods. The conversation shifts to the reliability of WolframAlpha, where users discuss how to specify that a variable is real to avoid confusion with complex numbers. Additionally, there is a debate comparing the error rates of MathWorld and Wikipedia, with some asserting that MathWorld has more mistakes, while others defend its reliability. The thread concludes with users sharing experiences of reporting errors and the challenges faced in getting corrections made.
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I often come up with a whole lot of mistakes on that particular site.
Look at the leftmost edge of the page and you'll see a tool to send message to the editorial board. Quote the line you feel is incorrect, then send them that.
Look at the leftmost edge of the page and you'll see a tool to send message to the editorial board. Quote the line you feel is incorrect, then send them that.
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ZaidAlyafey said:
Hi Zaid, :)
Both of your links refer to the same page. :)
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Sudharaka said:Hi Zaid, :)
Both of your links refer to the same page. :)
Oops , sorry for that , I edited it.
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topsquark said:
What's wrong with that? ;)
Actually W|A gives $\log(x) + \color{gray}{\text{constant}}$.
And isn't that true for all $x>0$? It's not as if W|A gives a domain.
Isn't it also true for all $x \in \mathbb C^*$?
Anyway, even in the real numbers it is properly:
\begin{cases}\ln x + C_1 & \text{if } x>0 \\ \ln(-x) + C_2 & \text{if } x<0 \end{cases}
I think that W|A prefers complex numbers, or otherwise would probably still not give such a convoluted answer.
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You have to somehow tell Wolfram Alpha that $x$ is a real variable. Otherwise it will assume that $x$ is a complex variable. And if $x$ is a complex variable, $\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{x} \ dz = \log(x) + C$ is a true statement.
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Good point. Not to hijack the thread but can you quickly tell me how you would tell Wolfram x is real?Random Variable said:You have to somehow tell Wolfram Alpha that $x$ is a real variable. Otherwise it will assume that $x$ is a complex variable. And if $x$ is a complex variable, $\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{x} \ dz = \log(x) + C$ is a true statement.
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For whatever reason, I am unable to link directly to the Wolfram Alpha output.
But the following command seems to return nonsense.
assuming[Element[x, Reals] , int [1/x,x]]
But the following command seems to return nonsense.
assuming[Element[x, Reals] , int [1/x,x]]
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Yeah, right. An awful lot of mistakes. I once tried that send message and sent the error and correction but no one looked at it, and remains incorrect today as well, and so I think its useless. In fact, I think Wikipedia is less error-prone than Mathworld.mathbalarka said:I often come up with a whole lot of mistakes on that particular site.
Look at the leftmost edge of the page and you'll see a tool to send message to the editorial board. Quote the line you feel is incorrect, then send them that.
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Sawarnik said:Yeah, right. An awful lot of mistakes. I once tried that send message and sent the error and correction but no one looked at it, and remains incorrect today as well, and so I think its useless. In fact, I think Wikipedia is less error-prone than Mathworld.
Which mistake?
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I like Serena said:Which mistake?
One that I found recently: Semiperimeter -- from Wolfram MathWorld
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Sawarnik said:One that I found recently: Semiperimeter -- from Wolfram MathWorld
So where is the mistake in that article?
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I like Serena said:So where is the mistake in that article?
"and Brahmagupta's formula for the area of a quadrilateral:"
Is the formula after that Brahmagupta's!
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Sawarnik said:"and Brahmagupta's formula for the area of a quadrilateral:"
Is that formula after that Brahmagupta's!
Erm...it is.
Brahmagupta's formula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Pranav said:
Seriously? Look carefully.
It is Bretschneider's formula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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Sawarnik said:
Yep, sorry, the wikipedia article I linked to also states that it is Bretschneider's formula.
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Hmm, so the math is perfectly correct and as such MathWorld is reliable.
The problem is that the credits given are not correct in that article.
Just now, I have sent a contribution to MathWorld with the suggestion to correct this.
We'll see.
The problem is that the credits given are not correct in that article.
Just now, I have sent a contribution to MathWorld with the suggestion to correct this.
We'll see.
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IlikeSerena said:Hmm, so the math is perfectly correct and as such MathWorld is reliable.
At least, more than wikipedia in any case.
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mathbalarka said:At least, more than wikipedia in any case.
I'll bite.
Where is the mistake in wikipedia?
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Where is the mistake in wikipedia?
Somehow, I knew you'd say that. There have been many changes in wiki since I saw them, so I will show you only the ones I can find.
First, I remember wiki giving a terribly false estimate for the totient sum
$$\sum_{n\leq x} \frac1{\varphi(n)}$$
Which I don't remember what it was and they corrected it afterwards, as I see it.
Second is something on tetration, I haven't seen whether it is still there but I can't rember it either.
The last is Von Mangoldt. It's fresh as new and you can see all the craps there if you open the page up.
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I like Serena said:Hmm, so the math is perfectly correct and as such MathWorld is reliable.
The problem is that the credits given are not correct in that article.
Just now, I have sent a contribution to MathWorld with the suggestion to correct this.
We'll see.
No, the formula named is wrong, which is problematic.
And I had already sent a message to them, but there has been no corrections!
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mathbalarka said:At least, more than wikipedia in any case.
But you can correct errors in Wiki with no prob. The MathWorld team however never listens to any suggestion and the mistake remain mistakes.
But form my experience Wiki is not at all as bad as people say.
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