Is There a Mistake in This CLQG Thesis?

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The discussion revolves around a potential mistake identified in a thesis on Semi-Classical Holomorphic Transition Amplitudes in Covariant Loop Quantum Gravity. Participants analyze a specific claim regarding the number of simplices contained within a simplex and its implications for the thesis's results.

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  • One participant claims there is a mistake in the thesis regarding the number of ways to remove vertices from a simplex, suggesting it should state there are ##\binom{p+1}{k}## possibilities instead of ##\binom{p+1}{k+1}##.
  • Another participant proposes a revision to Lemma 3.2.1 to clarify the number of ##n-##simplices in a ##p-##simplex, asserting that this change would align the thesis with established references.
  • There is a suggestion to contact the author for clarification on the identified mistake, with one participant noting they attempted to reach out but did not receive a response.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of the thesis's claims, with some supporting the identification of a mistake while others suggest further verification through communication with the author. No consensus is reached regarding the validity of the thesis's content.

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The discussion involves technical details that depend on specific definitions and notations, and the implications of the proposed changes on the thesis's results remain unresolved.

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I've been reading this interesting thesis recently posted. But I think I spotted a mistake. On page 52 of "Semi-Classical Holomorphic Transition Amplitudes in Covariant Loop Quantum Gravity":

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.04651.pdf

It says "In general, removing ##k## vertices from ##[v_0, v_1, . . . , v_p]## leaves us with a ##p − k##-simplex contained in the original ##p-##simplex. As there are ##\binom{p+1}{k+1}## possibilities to remove ##k## elements from a list of length ##p + 1## we just proved..."

This is a mistake, it should say there are ##\binom{p+1}{k}## possibilities!

Or if you like there are ##\binom{p+1}{p-k+1}## possibilities.

If you put ##n=p-k## you get the same result as stated on page 67 of Nakahara, "Geometry, Topology and Physics" which says (adjusting for notation) that the number of ##n-##faces in a ##p-##simplex is ##\binom{p+1}{n+1}##.

Yep?
 
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Thanks for the like @atyy.

I think maybe the author needs to change Lemma 3.2.1 in https://arxiv.org/pdf/2001.04651.pdf to:

"The number of ##n-##simplices (where ##n=p-k##) contained in a ##p-##simplex, which we denote as ##N^p_n##, is given by

$$
N^p_n = \binom{p+1}{n+1} \quad \text{for } 0 \leq n \leq p .
$$"

because then the formula that he uses for the Euler characteristic in Eq (3.28), namely ##\chi (\sigma^{(d)}) = \sum_{n=0}^d (-1)^n N^d_n##, would be correct (i.e. in accordance with page 86 of Nakahara).Eq (3.28) appears to be the only place Lemma 3.2.1 is applied, and so the mistake he made has no impact on any of the results of the thesis.

It appears to be a very nicely written thesis.
 
Maybe you could email the author? And report back to us what he says :smile:
 
atyy said:
Maybe you could email the author? And report back to us what he says :smile:

I did email him, but didn't receive a response - but I then I realized that is not his current email address...

I actually know somebody who knows him, I might email them at some point.
 

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