A pair of oppositely charged, parallel plates are separated

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The problem involves a pair of oppositely charged parallel plates separated by a distance of 5.0 cm with a potential difference of 500 V. A proton and an electron are released from rest at their respective plates, and the discussion focuses on their motion and interactions under the influence of the electric field created by the plates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of electric field strength and forces acting on the proton and electron. There are attempts to apply kinematic equations to determine the time of crossing and final velocities. Some participants express confusion regarding the large values of acceleration calculated.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find individual accelerations for the proton and electron. Participants are exploring different interpretations of the equations and their implications, particularly concerning the factor of two in force calculations. There is ongoing discussion about how to approach the problem of determining the crossing time and final speeds.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the different masses of the proton and electron, which affects their accelerations. There is also mention of neglecting interactions between the two particles, which could influence their paths.

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Homework Statement



A pair of oppositely charged, parallel plates are separated by a distance of 5.0 cm with a potential difference of 500 V between the plates. A proton is released from rest at the positive plate, and at the same time an electron is released at the negative plate. Neglect any interaction between the proton and the electron.
a. After what interval will their paths cross?
b. How fast will each particle be going when their paths cross?
c. At what time will the electron reach the opposite plate?
d. At what time will the proton reach the opposite plate?

Homework Equations



I seriously don't know there are soo many equations but these will probably do the job:
E=Fe/Q
E=k q/r2
Sum of all forces=ma
d=vit+1/2at2

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know where to start. I honestly I tried using E=k q/r2 then find Fe with E=Fe/Q and use sum of all forces but then I took into account that both the positive plate and negative plate were acting on either proton or electron at the same time and from there I got completely lost
 
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Hi lilkidyea, welcome to PF.
Proton and electron has the same charge but different mass. So they have different acceleration. Find their accelerations. Then using kinematic equations find the remaining results.
 
So uh for a this is what I've done:
V=ed
500=E(.05)
E=10000
E=Fe/Q
Fe=10000*1.602x10^-19
Fe=1.602x10^-15
sum of all forces=ma
proton:
2x(1.602x10^-15)=(1.67x10^-27)a
a=1.92x10^12 m/s^2
at this point I just went completely Wahh?! because my acceleration is just HUGE so I must have done something wrong
 
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E=Fe/Q
So Fe = ...?
 
So with that I did D=vit+1/2at^2
.05=0+1/2(1.92x10^12)t^2
t=2.28x10^-7 for d. Is this right?

for electron:
sum of all forces=ma
2(1.62x10^-15)=(9.12x10^-31)a
a=3.55x10^15
d=vit+1/2at^2
.05=0+.5(3.55x10^15)t^2
t=5.31x10^-9 for c. Is this right?

but with this I still don't know how to find the ans or a or b
 
2x(1.602x10^-15)=(1.67x10^-27)a
Why there is a factor 2 in the beginning?
For (a), if they cross each other at a distance x from one of the plates, then
x = 1/2*a1*t^2
d-x = 1/2*a2*t^2.
Solve these equations to fine x and t.
 
rl.bhat said:
2x(1.602x10^-15)=(1.67x10^-27)a
Why there is a factor 2 in the beginning?
well I figured since the positive plate is pushing and the negative plate is pulling on the same proton I multiplied the magnitude by 2
 

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