A photon absorption/emission by an atom

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The discussion revolves around the processes of photon absorption and emission by an atom, particularly in the context of Bohr's model. Participants explore the mechanisms behind electron excitation and the conditions under which electrons release energy, as well as the implications of band gaps in relation to photon energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what causes an electron to release energy and fall to a lower energy state after absorbing a photon, noting that this seems to be an inherent instability.
  • Another participant suggests that the time it takes for an electron to fall from a higher energy state to a lower one may depend on the orbital state, inquiring about any suitable equations for this process.
  • There is a discussion about whether an electron can absorb a photon only if it has enough energy to reach an excited state, with a participant providing an example involving a band gap of 1.3 eV and an absorbed photon of 1.4 eV.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the nature of photon absorption, emphasizing that a photon is completely absorbed and that typically only one photon is absorbed by an electron at a time, although high intensity light may allow for rare instances of multiple absorption.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding specific details, such as the average time for electron transitions and the implications of band gaps. There is no consensus on these points, and multiple views are presented without resolution.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding and express uncertainty about the mechanisms involved in photon absorption and emission, as well as the mathematical descriptions of these processes.

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Hello,

I am wondering about a photon absorption/emission by an atom.
We have been told at the university an electron is excited up in Bohr's model if an atom absorbs an energy in a form of photon. What cause an electron release an energy and falls down in Bohr's model? Does not an atom absorbs a photon in case of it doesn't have enough energy to cross a band gap?
Thanks.
 
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When an electron absorbs energy, either by a photon or by other means such as a collision with another particle, it jumps to a higher energy state, as you know. But, this higher energy state is unstable, and after some amount of time the electron falls from the higher energy state to a lower one. It doesn't necessarily fall all the way back to the lowest energy state, as it can fall into several lower energy states if there are any available, but the key here is that this process is inherent. There's no known "mechanism" that causes this other than this inherent instability. It falls to a lower energy level simply because it can. (At least as far as I understand it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong)

Unfortunately I don't understand the last part of your post.
 
Drakkith said:
But, this higher energy state is unstable, and after some amount of time the electron falls from the higher energy state to a lower one.
That's another thing I would like to ask. Can be said how large amount of time in average this takes? I suppose it depends on a state orbital, is there any suitable equation?

Drakkith said:
Unfortunately I don't understand the last part of your post.
I am sorry for my english, I am still working on my improvement. What I had in my mind was if can electron absorbs an photon until the photon has enough energy to get electron on upwards state.
I was wondering about it since that time and I've hunted out from my memory an electron absorbs and emits an photon normally in terms of elastic collision. But I am not sure with this matter: if a band gap is e.g. 1.3eV wide and electron obtain energy of 1.4eV it be excited on higher energy state and emits a photon with energy of 0.2eV, right?
 
-SJ- said:
That's another thing I would like to ask. Can be said how large amount of time in average this takes? I suppose it depends on a state orbital, is there any suitable equation?

I think so, but I don't know the equation myself.

I am sorry for my english, I am still working on my improvement. What I had in my mind was if can electron absorbs an photon until the photon has enough energy to get electron on upwards state.
I was wondering about it since that time and I've hunted out from my memory an electron absorbs and emits an photon normally in terms of elastic collision. But I am not sure with this matter: if a band gap is e.g. 1.3eV wide and electron obtain energy of 1.4eV it be excited on higher energy state and emits a photon with energy of 0.2eV, right?

I'm still not quite sure what you're asking, but I'll try to answer.

First, realize that each photon is completely absorbed. You can't absorb half of a photon. So all of the photon's energy goes to the electron. Also, a single electron typically only absorbs one photon at a time. If the intensity of the light is very high there is a small chance that it can absorb more than one at a time, however, but this is rare.

If the electron requires 1.3 eV to jump to a specific energy state, then absorbing 1.4 eV will send it to a higher energy state, if one is available. The band gap typically refers to an area where no states exist, but there may or may not be plenty of states higher than the bandgap that would allow a wide range of electron energies.
 
Thank you for the answer. I think I can understand now. Thanks a lot.
 

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