A problem involving logarithms

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving logarithms, where participants are sharing their work and seeking feedback on its correctness. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and results, indicating a struggle with the material.

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  • Participants discuss the use of LaTeX for clarity in presenting mathematical expressions. There are attempts to simplify logarithmic expressions and identify mistakes in the original poster's work. Some participants suggest breaking down the problem into smaller parts and converting logarithms to a common base.

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There is ongoing feedback regarding the original poster's attempts, with some participants pointing out specific errors and offering suggestions for improvement. Multiple interpretations of logarithmic rules are being explored, and while some guidance has been provided, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants mention the challenges of using LaTeX and the complexity of the logarithmic concepts involved. There are references to specific mistakes in the original poster's calculations, but the overall context remains focused on understanding and clarifying the problem rather than reaching a definitive solution.

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Poster has been reminded not to post images of his work -- LaTeX is the preferred way to post work at PF.
Homework Statement
$$\{ (log_2 9)^2 \}^{\frac {1} {log_2(log_2 9)} } \cdot (\sqrt 7)^\frac {1} {log_4 7}$$
Relevant Equations
$$ x^{log_a x}=a $$
This is my work. I don't know whether this is correct or not. What do you think of the problem.
Thanks!
 

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It works much better if you type your work into the forum using LaTeX. It is much easier for us to read and to quote any parts that we want to clarify/correct.

Please look at the LaTeX Guide in the lower left of the Edit window. Thank you.
 
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berkeman said:
It works much better if you type your work into the forum using LaTeX. It is much easier for us to read and to quote any parts that we want to clarify/correct.

Please look at the LaTeX Guide in the lower left of the Edit window. Thank you.
Ya that's what I am finding difficult. I would edit it and post in latex form soon.
 
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After full ##1## hour of grind I finally did it. It was ridiculously tough for me. I think I am now some 3 percent familiar with it , lol.
 
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berkeman said:
It works much better if you type your work into the forum using LaTeX. It is much easier for us to read and to quote any parts that we want to clarify/correct.

Please look at the LaTeX Guide in the lower left of the Edit window. Thank you.

sahilmm15 said:
After full ##1## hour of grind I finally did it. It was ridiculously tough for me. I think I am now some ##3## percent## familiar with it , lol.
A snip of your posted image gives the expression you are trying to simplify as:

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By The Way: The ##{LaTeX}## code for ##\log_2 9## is ##\log_2 9## .

From your posted image, it appears that entire expression, ##\dfrac {1} {\log_2(\log_2 9)} \cdot
(\sqrt 7)^\left ( \dfrac {1} {\log_4 7} \right)## is to be used as the exponent for ##(\log_2 9)^2 ## .

You did correctly find that ## (\sqrt 7)^\left ( \dfrac {1} {\log_4 7} \right) = 2## .

But there are mistakes elsewhere.
 
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I see two mistakes right now.

1. You left out the factor of 2 you derived in your step number 5

2. You forgot to set one bracket:
Your step from $$x^{2^{log_x(2)}}$$ to $$x\cdot x^{log_x(2)}$$ is wrong. There need to be brackets around both x: $$(x\cdot x)^{log_x(2)}$$ Therefore the exponent needs to be applied to both x $$x^{log_x(2)} \cdot x^{log_x(2)}$$

I think with these informations you should be able to find the correct answere. But feel free to ask additional questions.
 
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Relevant Equations:: $$ x^{log_a x}=a $$
That's not correct. For instance, if ##x=16## and ##a=2##, you get
$$16^{\log_2 16} = 16^4 = 65536 \ne 2.$$
 
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SammyS said:
You did correctly find that ## (\sqrt 7)^\left ( \dfrac {1} {\log_4 7} \right) ## ##= 2## .
I don't think I've even seen ##\large{\log_{A^F} C^F= \log_{A} C }## stated as a rule for logarithms, but it does work.

(In reference to you changing ##\large{\log_{(\sqrt{7})^2} 2^2}## to ## \log_{(\sqrt{7})} 2 ## .)
 
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sahilmm15 said:
Relevant Equations:: $$ x^{log_a x}=a $$
vela said:
That's not correct. For instance, if ##x=16## and ##a=2##, you get
$$16^{\log_2 16} = 16^4 = 65536 \ne 2.$$
But ##a^{\log_a x} = x## is the corrected version.
 
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sahilmm15 said:
This is my work. I don't know whether this is correct or not. What do you think of the problem.
I think it would be helpful if you divide and conquer, do each part separately, and reduce everything to logarithms base "e" using the formula ##a^b=e^{b\ln a}##. Take for example the expression ##\log_2(9)##: Let ##u=\log_2(9)##. That means ##2^u=9## or ##e^{u\ln(2)}=9##. Thus ##\log_2(9)=\frac{\ln(9)}{\ln(2)}##. Do every piece separately this way and then put all the pieces together.
 
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