A proof of divisibility problem

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The discussion revolves around a proof of divisibility problem involving integers, specifically examining the conditions under which a divides b, b+c, and 3c. Participants are exploring the implications of these divisibility relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss various interpretations of the divisibility conditions, questioning whether 'a' must be a multiple of 3 and the relevance of the factor of 3 in the problem. Some express confusion about the implications of the assumptions made regarding 'c' and its relationship to 'a' and 'b'.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering differing viewpoints on the necessity of 'a' being a multiple of 3 and the implications of the original problem statement. Some guidance is provided regarding the relationship between 'c' and 'a', but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note that the specific choice of 3 in the problem may be intended to provoke confusion, and there is a suggestion that the problem could be approached differently by focusing on the relationship between 'c' and 'a' without the factor of 3.

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If a divides b, and a divides b+c then a divides 3c.

How do I go forward with this?

This is what I've done so far:

suppose a|b and a|b+c

then b = an for some integer n
and c = am for some integer m

∴ b+c = an+am
= a(n+m)
= ak for some integer k

but I don't feel like this is getting me anywhere
 
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Alright, I got it

If a|3c then a is a multiple of 3

then b is also a multiple of 3, as a divides it

therefore a|b+c = b/a + c/a

and thus a|c

therefore a|3c
 
why doesn't 'a' divide c and not 3. Honestly the teacher put 3c in the problem to confuse you. He could have made it 13c. That wouldn't mean 'a' divides 13 since it can be shown that 'a' divides c. P.S you have shown that c = am so what does 3c equal?
 
we start out by assuming that a|3c is correct,
therefore a has to be a multiple of 3, if it divides 3c
 
junglebobo said:
we start out by assuming that a|3c is correct,
therefore a has to be a multiple of 3, if it divides 3c
No 'a' can be 7, 'c' can be 14 and 'b' can be 35. 3c would then be 42, a divides 3c because a divides c which is am. 3c would be 3am. a divides 3am because the factor a is in the product 3am. there is nothing in the problem that would suggest that 'a' divides 3.
 
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but it divides it into a multiple of 3. That's my point
 
junglebobo said:
but it divides it into a multiple of 3. That's my point

That doesn't mean that 3 divides 7,14 and 21. Thus neither a, b or c need be multiples of 3which is contrary to what you said.
 
hmm.. alright, point taken..
so how do I go about this then?
 
junglebobo said:
hmm.. alright, point taken..
so how do I go about this then?

All you need to do is show that c = am, so that 3c = 3am = a multiple of a.
 
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3c= 3(b+ c)- 3b.

Really what you are proving is that "if a divides b+ c and a divides b, then a divides c." The "3" is irrelevant.
 

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