A question about 4-velocity vector in relativity

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the 4-velocity vector in the context of relativity, specifically how to derive one equation from another as presented in a textbook. The original poster seeks clarification on the relationship between two equations related to 4-velocity.

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  • Participants explore the derivation of the 4-velocity vector and its magnitude squared, with attempts to simplify expressions involving relativistic factors. Questions arise regarding the correctness of calculations and the steps taken to arrive at specific results.

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Some participants have provided suggestions for checking calculations and simplifying expressions, while others express confusion about the results obtained. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored without a clear consensus on the resolution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of textbook definitions and equations, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the implications of relativistic factors.

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Hello ,
I have the book (An introduction to tensor calculus , relativity and cosmology) , this book defined the 4-velocity vector as :-

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And this book stated that :-

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How could we obtain (17.4) from (15.6) ?
Please I need help .


Thanks ……..



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Calculate the magnitude squared of the four-vector on the right side of 15.6. What do you get?
 
i do that but i don't obtain the result (-c^2)
i still need help .
 
m.medhat said:
i do that but i don't obtain the result (-c^2)
i still need help .
Show exactly what you did. You probably made a mistake somewhere.
 
let (1-[v^2]/[c^2])^-1/2 = y
therefore ?:-
V = y (v,ic)
V^2 = (y^2) ([v^2] + [ic]^2)
then V^2 = [y^2] ([v^2]-c^2)
that's all.



i still need help , please .
 
m.medhat said:
let (1-[v^2]/[c^2])^-1/2 = y
therefore ?:-
V = y (v,ic)
V^2 = (y^2) ([v^2] + [ic]^2)
then V^2 = [y^2] ([v^2]-c^2)
that's all.
i still need help , please .
You should have left the denominator alone instead of replacing it by 1/γ. All you need to do is simplify

[tex]\frac{v^2-c^2}{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}[/tex]
 
i understand the idea , thank you veryyyyyyyy much .
 

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