A relation between photon and electron - need discussion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between photons and electrons, specifically whether photons can give rise to electrons or if the reverse is true. Participants explore theoretical implications and the conditions under which these interactions might occur, touching on concepts of particle pair production and the influence of external forces on electromagnetic fields.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that photons can give rise to electrons and positrons when influenced by external forces that disrupt their electromagnetic field balance.
  • Another participant counters this by suggesting that it is more accurate to say that electrons can give rise to photons, particularly when electrons are excited.
  • A repeated assertion of the initial claim about photons leading to electron production is made, indicating a desire for further discussion on this idea.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the validity of external sources linked in the discussion, labeling them as "crackpottery" and emphasizing the importance of adhering to established scientific standards.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are competing views on the relationship between photons and electrons, with some supporting the idea of photons leading to electron production and others advocating for the opposite perspective.

Contextual Notes

There are references to external forces and conditions (such as E/B != c) that may influence the proposed interactions, but these assumptions remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Is it a photon that gives rise to an electron ?? Photon , in presence of any external force that disrupts its magnetic and electric field balance in space where E/B!= c causes production of a pair particle -- electron and positron .

I have done a lot work upon it .Want to know other's view upon it .
 
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No, it is not so easy.

Better to say that it is an electron that gives rise to a photon. Pushing an electron excites photonic degrees of freedom easily.
 
bpm_vns19 said:
Is it a photon that gives rise to an electron ?? Photon , in presence of any external force that disrupts its magnetic and electric field balance in space where E/B!= c causes production of a pair particle -- electron and positron .

I have done a lot work upon it .Want to know other's view upon it .

You mean something like this:

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That site was completely filled with crcakpottery.

Let me remind everyone of the PF rules:

Overly Speculative Posts:
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