A Single Turn, Square Loop (torque)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a square loop of wire with a specified length, current, and magnetic field, focusing on calculating the torque experienced by the loop. The subject area pertains to electromagnetism and torque in magnetic fields.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the loop's dimensions and the implications of it being a "single turn." There is confusion regarding the number of sides of a square and how the length of wire relates to the area needed for torque calculation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the definitions and assumptions related to the problem setup. Some participants are questioning the terminology used in the problem statement, while others are attempting to clarify the relationship between the wire length and the geometry of the square loop.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of "single turn" and its implications for calculating the area of the loop. Participants are also addressing the need for clarity in the problem statement regarding the geometry of the square loop.

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Homework Statement


A 0.790 m length of wire is formed into a single-turn, square loop in which there is a current of 12.4 A. The loop is placed in a magnetic field of 0.146 T, as shown in the figure below.

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Homework Equations



Net torque = NIABsin(theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


Okay so looking at the problem. I see that a wire the length of .790 is bent to for a single-turn square. So I take my length and divide it by 2. Which should be the length of each side of the square now.
Now the area of a square is A = l*w or one of your sides squared. So that would give me an A of .156 m^2.

Now as for N should it not just be 1. Since its a single turn square.

B = .146
I = 12.4
Also since I am looking for the maximum torque it should be a sin(90) correct?

Well anyway when I use this formula I'm not getting the correct answer. So if someone could steer me in the right direction that would be great :).
 
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DeltaIceman said:

Homework Statement


A 0.790 m length of wire is formed into a single-turn, square loop in which there is a current of 12.4 A.

The Attempt at a Solution


I see that a wire the length of .790 is bent to for a single-turn square. So I take my length and divide it by 2. Which should be the length of each side of the square now.

How many sides does a square have?

ehild
 
A square has 4 sides. But since its a single loop square doesn't it only have 2 sides?
 
I mean not that the square in general has 2 sides. I know that's not possible. But I thought that when it said a single turn it meant that the length .709 was the first 2 sides of the square... |_ <- like that if it makes sense. And I just divided the length by 2 to get the length of one side. Anyway that's what I think of when it says single turn.
 
Well, it might have been better to say "single loop" in the problem. You need the area of the loop to get the torque. A single turn "L" shape has no area. ehild
 

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