A space craft's speed due to gravitaitonal force

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the gravitational influence of Mars on a spacecraft approaching it. The original poster presents a scenario where the spacecraft's speed is calculated at two different distances from Mars, using principles of energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle, considering kinetic and potential energy to find the spacecraft's speed at a closer distance to Mars. Some participants question the consistency of units used in the calculations, while others suggest simplifying the energy equation by omitting certain terms.

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Participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, highlighting potential issues with unit conversion and unnecessary components in the energy equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of energy principles without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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The original poster emphasizes the need for precision in calculations for landing on Mars and mentions assumptions about negligible external influences on the spacecraft's motion.

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I have this question on a practice test I am using to study. Thanks for any assistance.

I believe it is a Energy Principle question

Homework Statement


A spacecraft is coasting towards mars. The mass of Mars is 6.4e^23 kg and its radius is 3400km. When the spacecraft is 7000km from the center of mars, the spacecraft s speed is 3000 m/s. Later, when the spacecraft is 4000 km from the center of mars, what is its speed?

(i think the following is unimportant, but here it is anyways:)
Assume that the effects of Mars two tiny moons, the other planets, and the sun are negligible. Precision is required to land on mars, so make an accurate calculation, not a rough, approximate calculation. Start from a fundamental principle.


Homework Equations



Energy Initial = Energy Final + work (both the spacecraft and planet are in the system, so work is 0)

Kinetic Energy = .5*mass*velocity^2

Potential energy = -G*mass1*MASS2/radius


The Attempt at a Solution



Ksi+KMi+Ui+mc2+Mc2=Ksf+KMf+Uf+mc2+Mc2

Mc2 cancels
mc2 cancels
KM has a near zero change, so it cancels

Leaving

Ksi+Ui=Ksf+Uf

Plugging in I get

.5*m*(3000)2+(-6.7e-11)*(m*(6.4e23)/(7000)=.5*m*(v)2+(-6.7e-11)*(m*(6.4e23)/(4000)

The m's (mass of craft) should cancel out on both sides,

and solving for v i get 95904 m/s



The key for the practice test (which doesn't give any work) states 4.3e3 m/s
 
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You've got a unit problem because you used m/s for v but km for r. Be sure to use only meters (you can't only use kilometers because 6.7e-11 has units of m^3/(kgs^2).
 
Also, it's unnecessary to include the rest mass energy or the kinetic energy change of the planet when doing problems like this. Just write Ki+Ui=Kf+Uf and everyone will understand what you mean.
 
sweet. i feel silly for overlooking that

glad i did that now and not on the test.

Thanks!
 

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