A spring-block system on a frictional plane

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The problem involves a block attached to a spring on a frictional surface, where the block is displaced from its equilibrium position. The task is to calculate the position of the block at any subsequent time, considering the forces acting on it, including spring force and friction.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations of motion for the block, considering different scenarios based on the direction of motion. They express concern about the complexity of their approach and seek a more elegant solution or presentation of their findings.

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Maybe I should have posted this question in 'elementary physics' but the question seemed rather difficult to me(although involving elementary concepts) so i am posting it at this forum.Here goes.

Homework Statement



A block of mass m is attached to a spring of spring constant k.the other end of the spring is attached to a wall.The mass rests on a surface with friction coefficient [tex]\mu[/tex].Now the mass is given a displacement [tex]x_{0}[/tex] from its equilibrium position.Calculate x at any subsequent time.

Homework Equations



The forces acting on the block are(taking the equilibrium position as origin)
force due to the spring:
[tex]\\F_{spring} = -kxi\hat \\[/tex]

[tex] \\ F_{friction} = \mu mgi\hat \\ \mbox{ when the block is moving in the -i direction}[/tex]

[tex] F_{friction} = -\mu mgi\hat \\ \mbox{ when the block is moving in +i direction}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



The equations i obtain are
[tex]m\ddot x +kx = \mu mg\ \mbox{when moving towards -i} \\[/tex]
[tex] \\ \mbox{and} m\ddot x + kx = -\mu mg\ \mbox{when moving towards +i}[/tex]
Solving them i get,for the first half cycle:
[tex] \\x = (x_{0} - \frac{\mu mg}{k})\cos \frac{k}{m}t + \frac{\mu mg}{k}\\[/tex]
[tex] <br /> \mbox{At the end of the first half cycle,the position of the block is,then } x'_{0} = -x_{o} + 2\frac{\mu mg}{k}[/tex]
[tex] \\ \mbox{Now,if i take t= 0 at} x= x'_{0} \ \mbox{ ,i get,from solving the second differential equation}[/tex]
[tex] \\x = -( x'_{o}+ \frac{\mu mg}{k}) \cos \frac{k}{m}t - \frac{\mu mg}{k}[/tex]
[tex] \mbox{At the end of this half-cycle the position is }[/tex]
[tex] x_{0} - 4\frac{\mu mg}{k} [/tex]

So I'm getting the result that for each half cycle the distance traversed goes down by [tex]2\frac{\mu mg}{k}[/tex].I get the same reult from work-energy theorem.
is my method correct?if yes,is there a more elegant way of doing it?is there at least an elegant way of writing the answer?In my answer I'm putting t=0 at the start of each half-cycle,so i can't boil it down to less than 2 equations.

P.S:this is te first time I'm using latex.
 
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this looks all right.must've edited it 20 times or so! how does one start a new line in latex here? \\ doesn't seem to work.
 
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thanx mentz,but that doesn't help.
yep,this is different from your usual damped oscillator,which is why I'm finding it difficult(and interesting)!
 

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