A spring is compressed by 90 cm

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The problem involves a spring compressed by 90 cm at the base of a frictionless hill with a height of 18 m. A 2 kg block is propelled by the spring and reaches a speed of 6 m/s at the top of the hill. Participants are tasked with finding the spring constant and exploring the energy transformations involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the energy conservation equation, questioning the setup and whether the elastic energy equals the sum of potential and kinetic energy. There is also mention of a second part of the question regarding the minimum compression needed for the block to reach the top of the hill without sliding down.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the energy equation, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the original setup. Others are exploring the implications of the second part of the question, noting changes in conditions such as the block's speed at the top of the hill.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are attempting to clarify the conditions necessary for the block to reach the top of the hill without sliding down.

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Homework Statement



A spring is compressed by 90 cm at the bottom of a frictionless hill of height 18m. the spring is realeased and propels a 2 kg block over the hill. At the top of the hill, the block's speed is 6 m/s. Find the force constant (spring constant) of the spring.

Homework Equations



1/2kx^2, 1/2mv^2 and mgy

The Attempt at a Solution


mgy=1/2kx^2+1/2mv^2 I solved for K and it did no give me the right answer. what I'm I doing wrong is this the right set up?
 
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ScienceGeek24 said:

Homework Statement



A spring is compressed by 90 cm at the bottom of a frictionless hill of height 18m. the spring is realeased and propels a 2 kg block over the hill. At the top of the hill, the block's speed is 6 m/s. Find the force constant (spring constant) of the spring.

Homework Equations



1/2kx^2, 1/2mv^2 and mgy

The Attempt at a Solution


mgy=1/2kx^2+1/2mv^2 I solved for K and it did no give me the right answer. what I'm I doing wrong is this the right set up?

At the beginning, the whole energy of the system is in the elastic energy of the spring. When the block is at the top of the hill, the energy is in the potential energy of the block and the kinetic energy of the block. Thus, it's NOT the potential energy which equals the sum of the elastic energy and the kinetic energy as you have written BUT the elastic energy which equals the sum of the potential energy and the kinetic energy.
 
thanks man it worked!
 
ScienceGeek24 said:
thanks man it worked!

Glad to help.
 
But i forgot also to emphazie the second part of the question where is asking what is the smallest compression of the spring that will allow the block to reach the op of the hill and not slide down?

I tried Fs=-kdeltax and it did not give me the right answer.

than i tried the same thing from part 1 solving for x and nope.
 
ScienceGeek24 said:
But i forgot also to emphazie the second part of the question where is asking what is the smallest compression of the spring that will allow the block to reach the op of the hill and not slide down?

I tried Fs=-kdeltax and it did not give me the right answer.

than i tried the same thing from part 1 solving for x and nope.

The only difference to part 1 of the question is that now the speed of the block at the top of the hill is not 6 m/s but... how much?
 
om/s yess! thanks man!
 

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