Undergrad A textbook passage describing coordinate lines in physical space

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In curved space, geodesics appear curved when compared to straight lines in the coordinate system. The discussion references a textbook, likely "Gravitation" by Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler, which illustrates this concept. A distinction is made that this phenomenon is not exclusive to curved spaces; even in flat spacetime with curved coordinates, inertial paths appear curved. The user seeks a more quotable first-person description of this concept, as opposed to the third-person perspective provided in the textbook's figures. The search continues for a memorable quote that encapsulates this visualization of coordinates in curved space.
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A picture illustrating coordinate lines 'swooping' through physical space.
In curved space, geodesics are curved relative to lines which are straight in the coordinate system. I remember seeing a text book that illustrated the corollary, the coordinate lines 'swooping' through physical space. I wish to reference it. I thought it was in 'Gravitation' by Milner Thorn & Wheeler, but if it is, I can't find it now.
 
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This might help. Gravitation, Misner, Thorne & Wheeler, 2017, page 4:
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gnnmartin said:
In curved space, geodesics are curved relative to lines which are straight in the coordinate system.
Just to note, this isn't particular to curved spaces. If you have curved coordinates in flat spacetime, inertial paths will be represented by curved lines in coordinate space.
 
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This might help. Gravitation, Misner, Thorne & Wheeler, 2017, page 4:
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Thanks. I was aware of the M T &W's figure, but it is rather a 'third person' view annd not very quotable. The description I thought I remember reading talks about a first person view: someone in curved space visualising the coordinates. I thought I remembered a rather snappy quotable sentence, but can't remember it or whose it was.
 
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MOVING CLOCKS In this section, we show that clocks moving at high speeds run slowly. We construct a clock, called a light clock, using a stick of proper lenght ##L_0##, and two mirrors. The two mirrors face each other, and a pulse of light bounces back and forth betweem them. Each time the light pulse strikes one of the mirrors, say the lower mirror, the clock is said to tick. Between successive ticks the light pulse travels a distance ##2L_0## in the proper reference of frame of the clock...

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