Abstract Algebra Question: Maximal Ideals

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There is exactly one maximal ideal in Z_8 and Z_9, which can be shown through their prime factorizations and the properties of ideals. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the definition of ideals and equivalence classes, leading to a realization that the initial approach was incorrect. For Z_10 and Z_15, it is confirmed that they contain more than one maximal ideal, which can be demonstrated by identifying their respective ideals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the definitions and properties of ideals in abstract algebra. Overall, the participants are working through their misunderstandings to clarify the concepts of maximal ideals.
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Homework Statement



a) Show that there is exactly one maximal ideal in Z_8 and in Z_9.

b) Show that Z_10 and Z_15 have more than one maximal ideal.


Homework Equations



I know a maximal ideal is one that is not contained within any other ideal (except for the ring itself)

By Theorem, we know that In a commutative ring R with identity, every maximal ideal is prime.


The Attempt at a Solution



For a) I was thinking I would just show that all of the classes were subsets of the other classes. i.e. [8/0] is contained in [4] is contained in [2], and [6] is contained in [3] and [2], [9] is contained in [3]. Does that make sense? But I couldn't figure out what to do with [5] and [7]. It seems to me like BOTH of those are maximal ideals, but I'm supposed to prove that there's only one. Also, not quite sure how to formalize this into a proof.

I'm pretty confident on what to do for b). I just have to show that there's more than one, right? And both Z_7 and Z_9 should be ideals in Z_10 and Z_15, aren't they?

Thanks!
 
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Instead of just writing [5], which I'm assuming is the ideal generated 5 in, say Z_8, it might make it clearer if you wrote out the elements contained in the ideal. Like, [4] in Z_8 is {0,4}, right? What's [5]?
 
Dick said:
Instead of just writing [5], which I'm assuming is the ideal generated 5 in, say Z_8, it might make it clearer if you wrote out the elements contained in the ideal. Like, [4] in Z_8 is {0,4}, right? What's [5]?

Oh, dang. Equivalence classes aren't ideals. Wow. Not sure what I was thinking.

All right. So it turns out that I actually have NO idea what I'm doing. Guess it's back to the drawing board.
 
Lauren72 said:
Oh, dang. Equivalence classes aren't ideals. Wow. Not sure what I was thinking.

All right. So it turns out that I actually have NO idea what I'm doing. Guess it's back to the drawing board.

Oh, you meant [5] to be an equivalence class? No, an ideal of Z_8 is a subset of Z_8 that's also subring with another property. Better check the definition.
 
Dick said:
Oh, you meant [5] to be an equivalence class? No, an ideal of Z_8 is a subset of Z_8 that's also subring with another property. Better check the definition.

Yeah. I know the definition of ideal. I've just been doing abstract algebra for the last few hours, and I think my brain may have gone a little soft and mushy.

Thanks for the willingness to help!
 
Lauren72 said:
Yeah. I know the definition of ideal. I've just been doing abstract algebra for the last few hours, and I think my brain may have gone a little soft and mushy.

Thanks for the willingness to help!

Some things to consider:

1) What is the prime factorization of 8? Of 9?

2) What do you know about the order of a subring with respect to its "parent ring"

3) Giving the theorem you stated, what are the eligible orders for a maximal ideal in Z_8? What about Z_9?
 
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