Academic advice for fall semester?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of taking Modern Algebra I and Real Analysis I concurrently in a single semester. The consensus is that while both courses are fundamental to a mathematics major, they are also highly intensive and may not be necessary for those intending to teach K-12 mathematics. Participants advise against enrolling in both courses simultaneously due to the potential for overwhelming stress and the importance of fully grasping the material. It is recommended to prioritize understanding over rushing through challenging coursework.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of proof-based mathematics, particularly from courses like Exploration and Proofs.
  • Familiarity with the basic concepts of Modern Algebra, including groups and rings.
  • Knowledge of Real Analysis fundamentals, such as epsilon-delta definitions.
  • Awareness of K-12 mathematics curriculum requirements for teaching purposes.
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  • Research the curriculum requirements for K-12 mathematics teachers to determine the relevance of advanced courses.
  • Explore study strategies for proof-based mathematics to enhance comprehension and retention.
  • Consider taking either Modern Algebra I or Real Analysis I separately to manage workload effectively.
  • Investigate resources or tutoring options for additional support in challenging mathematics courses.
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Mathematics majors, K-12 educators, and students contemplating advanced mathematics courses who seek guidance on course selection and workload management.

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Hi PF members,

I've been thinking about taking Modern Algebra I and Real Analysis I in the same semester, but I'm having doubts if this is a realistic schedule. A semester is only four and a half months long and I don't believe that I can fully comprehend the subjects I'm studying for that short of time. As for my background, I had done math well up until Exploration and Proofs where I earned a B-, so you can see why I'm a bit shaky in signing up for two proofs-intensive classes. On the sidenote, I'm a double major in history and mathematics for teaching which explains my hesitation in taking more challenging courses. I've been going over this in my head for a few times now, not sure what path to go. I would like some advice from people experienced in taking these type of math courses or have been in a similar situation such as I've described.

Thanks
 
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From a logical point of view, there is no reason to take either of those courses. If you plan on teaching K-12 mathematics (up to and including calculus), knowing about groups, rings, vector spaces in abstract algebra or epsilon-delta arguments in analysis is simply unnecessary. While it might provide added insight if you learn the material well, odds are the insights won't be directly useful. I can see how real analysis might be useful if you wanted to teach a not so watered down calculus course (meaning with some proofs of the more well-known theorems), but even that's a stretch. As for modern algebra, even the very basics demonstrate the power and value of generalization, which I feel is too explicit for people learning elementary mathematics for the first time.

Finally, both of these courses form the core of any math major's education, and while I wouldn't necessarily say you need to do exceptional in your proof course, you might need to brush up some skills to catch up with those who did very well. I would strongly advise against taking both simultaneously (probably a lot of stress for most people), and you have my thoughts on taking even just one.
 
Thanks for taking the time in relating your thoughts about the subjects. I wanted to get through all the hard courses this junior year and then have an easier senior year, but I guess that would be rushing and not learning.
 

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