Academic Success After Community College?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the experiences of individuals who transitioned from community college to a university setting, particularly in the context of studying physics. Participants share their concerns and insights regarding the adequacy of their preparation, the importance of understanding derivations, and strategies for success in subsequent university courses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their preparation in physics, noting that their community college courses emphasized memorization over understanding derivations.
  • Another participant shares a positive experience, stating that their community college education provided excellent preparation, particularly in organic chemistry.
  • Several participants recommend taking a lighter course load during the first semester at university to adjust to the new environment and address any perceived gaps in knowledge.
  • It is suggested that understanding derivations will occur in later courses, particularly in junior-level classes such as electromagnetism (E&M) and quantum mechanics (QM).
  • One participant advises reviewing physics textbooks to follow the derivations that were skipped in earlier courses as a way to strengthen understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that community college experiences can vary significantly in quality and that understanding derivations is important. However, there is no consensus on the adequacy of preparation across different community colleges, and some participants express personal concerns about their own readiness for university-level coursework.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the variability in community college education quality, suggesting that individual experiences may differ widely. There are also mentions of specific topics, such as Green's Theorem, that may not have been thoroughly covered in earlier courses.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students transitioning from community college to university, particularly those studying physics or related fields, as well as educators interested in understanding the challenges faced by these students.

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Well I am finally finishing my time at a community college majoring in physics. I've completed the calculus series as well as physics I and II. I begin fall semester at a regular university.

How many of you started at a community college and then had success with the rest of your university education?

The reason I ask is after reading some threads here, I am getting worried I'll have to start over as I haven't learned much during my CC education. For example - my physics prof always skipped derivations and I was stupid enough to think memorizing the formulas was a lot easier and did that...since the importance of deriving this stuff didn't seem important during class. Another example was in my calc III class we did Green's Theorem where only a formula was presented. I did some research so I knew what we were using it for, but in no way do I see (or could derive) the formula we used.

So anyway, do you get a chance later to see how things are derived? I think the math will start to make more sense once I actually start using it in the applied classes, but the derivations have me worried.

What do you guys think?
 
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I started at a CC. I was a chemistry major at the time though. I found the preparation to be excellent, in fact I was better versed in organic chem than a lot of the students at the university I transferred to.

But not all CCs are equal, some are great and some are abysmal. If I were you, I wouldn't take a super heavy load in the first term you're at a university. Give yourself time to make the adjustment, especially if you suspect you may have holes in your preparation.

Knowing derivations is important, and you'll have time to see them. I seem to recall the junior year as being quite heavy with derivations, in E&M and QM.
 
I started out at a community college as well and did just fine with the rest of my university education. I also know many other people who went to community college with me and were successful as well.

I agree with lisab's recommendation to take a lighter load your first semester as you adjust to a new school. If you feel your preparation is inadequate at all, then you can try reading through your physics book again and following the derivations you skipped in there. There are some formulas introduced in physics 1 and 2 that are usually just given and not derived until more advanced courses. I would say if you can understand the derivations in your textbook, then you should be fine.
 
Perfect, that makes me feel a lot better. Thanks for the replies.

Maybe over the next couple weeks I don't have class between semesters I will go through some of the derivations.
 

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