Accelerated expansion of the universe

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the accelerated expansion of the universe, exploring speculative ideas about multiple big bangs and the potential existence of parallel universes. Participants engage with theoretical implications, cosmological models, and the nature of speculation in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if a big bang can occur at a point in space-time, it might be possible for multiple big bangs to happen elsewhere, leading to parallel universes influencing our own.
  • Others argue against this idea, stating that in the big bang model, the universe did not originate from a single point, as space-time itself was created by the big bang.
  • There is a suggestion that if other universes exert gravitational effects, they would have to be considered part of our universe, challenging the notion of external influences.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of having reasons and academic backing for theories, cautioning against accepting mere speculation without evidence.
  • One participant notes that while speculation about multiple universes is interesting, it lacks the rigor needed for scientific acceptance and could be viewed as science fiction.
  • Another participant clarifies that in the LCDM model, the density of the universe increases uniformly, suggesting that the big bang occurred everywhere simultaneously rather than at a specific location.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the big bang and the validity of speculating about parallel universes. There is no consensus on these speculative ideas, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific cosmological models and the unresolved nature of speculative claims regarding parallel universes and their gravitational effects.

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If a big bang could occur at a point in space-time, couldn't we at least speculate that many big bangs could have occurred at many other points in space time, and could have resulted in many parrelel universes evolving far away or in close neighborhood of our own one?
And then, could it not be possible that the observed accelerated expansion of our universe could be due to the gravitational effects of our neighborhood universes?
 
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dayalanand roy said:
If a big bang could occur at a point in space-time, couldn't we at least speculate that many big bangs could have occurred at many other points in space time,

You cant, because in big bang model the universe didn't started from a point in space-time. Space time created by big bang itself.
 
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You can speculate. But physics is more than mere speculation.

If something has a gravitational effect on a galaxy in our universe then, by definition, that something is part of our universe.
 
dayalanand roy said:
And then, could it not be possible that the observed accelerated expansion of our universe could be due to the gravitational effects of our neighborhood universes?
Lots of things could be possible. It could be possible that the universe is just a simulation, but I can't say that without having reason and/or any academic experience backing that.

You have to think about the consequences of a theory, the reason for accepting the theory, and how to confirm the theory, before we can accept theories. Otherwise it is simply speculation and cannot be given an educated answer.
Arman777 said:
In that case I think we should have been observed faster acceleration in one particular direction due to the presence of the another universe.
Like here. I can speculate that there would actually be an infinite number of universes pulling in every direction. But of course, this would be futile, since it is merely speculation. Science fiction.
 
dayalanand roy said:
If a big bang could occur at a point in space-time,

If we roll the clock back in our LCDM model (our current standard cosmological model), we will observe that the density of the universe increases everywhere, eventually reaching infinity everywhere at the same time, before we ever get to a single point in spacetime. In other words, the big bang happened everywhere all at once, not at a single location.
 
Arman777 said:
You cant, because in big bang model the universe didn't started from a point in space-time. Space time created by big bang itself.
Thanks
 
PeroK said:
You can speculate. But physics is more than mere speculation.

If something has a gravitational effect on a galaxy in our universe then, by definition, that something is part of our universe.
Thanks
 
lekh2003 said:
Lots of things could be possible. It could be possible that the universe is just a simulation, but I can't say that without having reason and/or any academic experience backing that.

You have to think about the consequences of a theory, the reason for accepting the theory, and how to confirm the theory, before we can accept theories. Otherwise it is simply speculation and cannot be given an educated answer.

Like here. I can speculate that there would actually be an infinite number of universes pulling in every direction. But of course, this would be futile, since it is merely speculation. Science fiction.

Thanks. It was a simple speculation only as i mentioned in the post. I cannot propose a theory as I am not a physics student. And to learn about the consequences of this speculation, I just posted it here.
 
Drakkith said:
If we roll the clock back in our LCDM model (our current standard cosmological model), we will observe that the density of the universe increases everywhere, eventually reaching infinity everywhere at the same time, before we ever get to a single point in spacetime. In other words, the big bang happened everywhere all at once, not at a single location.

Thanks. But this is a very tough answer and I shall take much time to understand it.
 
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