Acceleration and velocity (conceptual) question

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual question related to acceleration and velocity, specifically in the context of a car skidding on a slippery road. The original poster reflects on a problem involving a car that skids at an angle while attempting to stop, seeking to understand the implications of acceleration components in this scenario.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions why only the x-component of acceleration is considered, given the car's skid at a 30-degree angle. Other participants explore the implications of the car's motion and the forces acting on it, including the role of torque and inertia.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the mechanics of the situation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the forces at play and the conditions under which the car skids, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of acceleration in this context.

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Participants note the absence of specific information regarding the maximum sideways speed, which is relevant to understanding the average acceleration in the y-direction. The discussion also touches on the complexities of real-world driving conditions that may affect the car's motion.

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I was doing some problems out of my book and the following problem has been solved, but a little question popped up in my head. Its simply conceptual, just want to gain a deeper and truer understanding of these two fundamental ideas...

The problem goes something like this...(easy one)...Attempting to stop on a slippery road, a car moving at 80 km/h skids across the road at a 30 (degree) angle to its initial motion, coming to a stop in 3.9s. Determine the average acceleration in m/s^2, using a coordinate system with the x-axis in the direction of the car's original motion and the y-axis toward the side of the road to which the car skids.

The answer that I stumbled upon AFTER having figured out the individual components of the resultant vector is; 5.69 m/s^2.My question is: Why is it that we only take into account the acceleration coming from the x coordinate? The car doesn't stay simply along the x-axis as is noticed from the 30(degree) "skid" it makes across the road.

Shouldn't the average acceleration be figured from the resultant vector? Or is the book just leaving out specifics?
 
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The initial AND final y-component velocities are zero, so you could say the average is zero. There is no way to find a value for the acceleration unless given the maximum sideways speed.
 
Sorry if this is simple-minded, but what then, causes the 30 degree skid?
 
Ideally if the car is strictly driving straight to the x-axis and the brakes are applied on both the wheels with identical force, then the car shouldn't rotate at all (assuming the slippery road has no geometrical flaws). In reality this situation might be hard to achieve. So any unbalanced force arising with the difference of brakes on both wheels or slightly wrong alignment might produce a nonzero torque on the car that will start rotating it. After that its all at hands of inertia and Newtonian mechanics.
 
That makes it much more understandable. Thank you both.
 

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