Acceleration of particles with differing masses in a uniform electric field

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The discussion revolves around the acceleration of two charged spheres with differing masses in a uniform electric field created by parallel plates. The problem involves understanding the relationship between mass, charge, and acceleration when the electric field strength changes as the plates are moved closer together.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the spheres being suspended in the electric field and question how changes in the electric field affect their acceleration. There is discussion about the relationship between mass and charge, and whether equal charges would lead to equal accelerations.

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The conversation is active, with participants clarifying concepts related to forces acting on the spheres and the conditions for equilibrium. Some guidance has been provided regarding the implications of mass and charge on acceleration, and there is an exploration of different interpretations of the problem setup.

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There is an assumption that the charges on the spheres may not be equal, which affects the forces acting on them. This has led to discussions about how the ratio of charge to mass influences their acceleration in the electric field.

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Homework Statement


The diagram shows two charged spheres X and Y, of masses 2m and m respectively, which are just prevented from falling under gravity by the uniform electric field between the two parallel plates.

If the plates are moved closer together
A X and Y will both remain stationary.
B X and Y will both move upwards with the same acceleration.
C X will have a greater upward acceleration than Y.
D Y will have a greater upward acceleration than X.

(I haven't posted the diagram, but it just shows 2 plates lying horizontally with 2 circles directly in the middle of the 2 plates, one circle twice the size of the other)

Homework Equations


F = eq
F = ma
E = V/D

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer is B, but I don't understand why.

Plates moved closer together, E=V/D, so electric field increases in strength.

I understand that in a gravitational field the only force is W=mg, so F=W so ma = mg, g's cancel so a is constant. But in a gravitation field surely F=eq so eq=ma so a = eq/m. In other words, suerely mass would have an effect on the upwards acceleration? So the upwards acceleration of both would not be equal?
 
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Hi squimmy and welcome to PF. It seems you are a bit confused. When the spheres are suspended (prevented from falling), this means that their acceleration is zero. This also means that the net force on each is zero. Can you write an equation saying that the net force (sum of all the forces) is zero?
 
Confused indeed!

Not entirely sure what you mean...

The spheres are suspended so the downward force, gravitational, equals the upwards force, electrical. So eq=mg? Thus F = 0, so ma = 0, so a must be zero.

But why, when the electrical field is made stronger, do they accelerate equally regardless of mass?
 
One sphere has twice the mass of the other. What does this say about its charge relative to the charge on the other sphere?
 
I was under the impression that the question implied the charges were equal?
 
The problem doesn't say that they are. In fact if they were, they would have unequal downward gravitational forces acting on them but equal upward electrical forces. This means that, for given E field value, one or the other can be suspended but not both.
 
Oh. In that case I suppose it would be logical for one mass to have twice the charge of the other. Therefore using a=eq/m, q and m are both twice as large so the acceleration should be equal for both, leading to B. Is that correct?

Thanks a lot! :)
 
That is correct. Two particles that have the same q/m ratio will have the same acceleration.
 

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