Graduate Acceleration of Universe: centrifugal force?

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The discussion centers on the hypothesis that the observed acceleration of the universe's expansion is solely due to centripetal force from a rotating universe, a concept initiated during the Big Bang approximately 13.7 billion years ago. This model has been conclusively debunked, as it violates the Cosmological Principle and contradicts empirical evidence, which shows isotropy in the universe's expansion. The community emphasizes that any proposed model must be supported by positive evidence rather than requiring others to disprove it. Previous discussions on this topic have confirmed its falsification, leading to the closure of the thread.

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Is it 'possible' (that is, if you say not, can you conclusively show the negative), that the entire observed acceleration in the expansion Our Universe, created some 13.7 x 10^9 years ago in the Big Bang, is due solely to centripetal force throughout, caused by a complex spinning/rotating/tumbling (initiated in the Big Bang, but, itself, slowing over time as the Universe expands--much as would an ice skater, who, after first initiating her spin and then gradually pulling her arms in tight to her chest in order to spin faster and faster, might then--instead of stopping suddenly in her finale--choose to reverse the process by gradually letting her arms stretch out--this last movement being comparable, in its 1-dimensional way, to our Universe's many-dimensional rotation rate slowing over time with its accelerated expansion), all relative to a surrounding massive Multiverse (say, of other--perhaps distant, perhaps not so--surrounding universes, probably created in other separate 'big bang' events), so that this acceleration is then observed by us in the actual middle of our 'Observable' (i.e., the 93 Gly in diameter) Universe (somewhere in the midst of--and probably no more than a speck within--our entire Big Bang Universe) in the form of distant galaxies and galaxy clusters rushing away from us in all directions and at increasing velocities with distance, so that, thereby, there is actually no need to posit some 'dark energy' continuously creating new space within Our Universe, as all of the acceleration in the expansion is due to said centripetal force pulling apart our (non-rigid) Universe?
 
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No, it is not. This has been debunked on this forum numerous times. It would imply a preferred frame of refrence thereby violating the Cosmological Principle and all known experiments.
 
petermoose said:
Is it 'possible' (that is, if you say not, can you conclusively show the negative)

That's not how it works. If you are proposing a model for the universe, it's up to you to justify it based on some kind of positive evidence. It's not up to us to "conclusively show the negative".

However, in this case the model you are proposing has already been considered and falsified; it makes predictions that we know to be wrong. See below.

petermoose said:
that the entire observed acceleration in the expansion Our Universe, created some 13.7 x 10^9 years ago in the Big Bang, is due solely to centripetal force

No. Any model in which the universe is "rotating", so that what we see as "accelerated expansion" is due to the effects of the rotation, would not be isotropic; things would look different in different directions. They don't.

(If you search PF for threads on "rotating universe", you will find previous discussions where this same point was made.)
 
Thread closed as this topic has already been discussed in multiple PF threads.
 
I always thought it was odd that we know dark energy expands our universe, and that we know it has been increasing over time, yet no one ever expressed a "true" size of the universe (not "observable" universe, the ENTIRE universe) by just reversing the process of expansion based on our understanding of its rate through history, to the point where everything would've been in an extremely small region. The more I've looked into it recently, I've come to find that it is due to that "inflation"...

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