Acceleration to be in m/s^2 and integrate w.r.t. x

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The discussion revolves around the treatment of units during integration and differentiation, particularly focusing on acceleration measured in m/s² and its integration with respect to distance (x). Participants explore how units transform through these mathematical operations without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether units change during integration and differentiation, specifically asking if it can be shown that integrating acceleration in m/s² with respect to x results in m/s.
  • Another participant assumes the integration is with respect to time, explaining that integrating with respect to time incorporates the time dimension, leading to units of m/s.
  • A different participant notes that integration involves multiplication, emphasizing that summation does not alter units, and that dt is significant beyond mere notation.
  • Further clarification is provided that integrating with respect to a variable with specific units results in the output units being the product of the integrand's units and the variable's units, while differentiation results in units of the function divided by the variable's units.
  • An example is given where differentiating distance in meters with respect to time in seconds yields speed in m/s, and integrating density over volume leads to mass in grams.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the integration process and its implications on units, indicating that multiple views remain without a consensus on the treatment of units in this context.

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Some assumptions about the integration variable and its context are not explicitly stated, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the specific conditions under which the unit transformations are valid.

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I'm not sure if this is the write forum for this question, but I'm sure someone(maybe everyone) here knows the answer to my question. My question has to do with units and integration/differentiation. Does something "happen" to these units during these operations, or are you just supposed to "know"? For example, when you take acceleration to be in m/s^2 and integrate w.r.t. x, can it be "shown in the work" that the units will be m/s?
 
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I assume you mean integrating with respect to time. When you integrate, the dt gives you the [time] dimension that gives you m/s as the final result. Similarly, when you differentiate with respect to, for example, time, you're attaching [tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex] your equation which gives [1/time] dimensions.
 


Integrating involves multiplication, while summation doesn't change the units (off course it's important that you are summing sizes with the same units). The dt is not there just for notation.
 


As both pengwuino and elibj123 said, integration is essentially like multiplication and differentiation like division. If you are integrating with respect to a variable having particular units, the units of the result are the units of the integrand times the units of the variable. If you are differentiating a function with respect to a variable, the units of the derivative are the units of the function being differentiated divide by the units of the variable.

If you differentiate distance, x, in units of meters, with respect to time, t, in seconds, the result is a speed, dx/dt, with units of m/s, meters per second.

If you have a have an object with density, [itex]\rho[/itex] in units of [itex]g/m^3[/itex], grams per cubic meter, and integrate over its volume with respect ot x, y, and z in units of meters, then the mass, [math]\int\int\int \rho(x,y,z)dxdydz[/math], has units of [itex](g/m^3)(m)(m)(m)= g[/itex], grams.
 

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